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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Does Trump really always chicken out?]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[President Donald Trump’s decision Tuesday to accept a ceasefire in Iran — rather than following through on his threats to escalate the war further with massively destructive attacks harming Iranian civilians — is being greeted with what’s become a familiar refrain: TACO.&#160; Issuing extreme threats has been central to Trump’s governance strategy. But, as many [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-text-align-none">President Donald Trump’s decision Tuesday to accept a ceasefire in Iran — rather than following through on his threats to escalate the war further with massively destructive attacks harming Iranian civilians — is being greeted with what’s become a familiar refrain: TACO.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Issuing extreme threats has been central to Trump’s governance strategy. But, as many have noticed, he often doesn’t follow through on these threats. This led to the famous acronym TACO, or “Trump always chickens out,” coined by the <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/e81ae481-fbb6-47e7-bd6b-c7d76ca5ab69?syn-25a6b1a6=1">Financial Times’ Robert Armstrong</a> about Trump’s tariff threats last year.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">TACO became a shorthand, especially among investors, to rebut the conventional wisdom among liberals that Trump was an unhinged madman. “It’s an antidote to the wrong-headed view that Trump is a monster of authoritarian ideology,” <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/8b755d28-8d6d-4d24-80c5-0f2d39d2583c?syn-25a6b1a6=1">Armstrong wrote in December</a>, “rather than a gifted reality TV star without any political commitments worthy of the name.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So TACO is a reading of Trump’s psychology. “I meant it to signify the plain fact that the president has a low tolerance for political or economic pain,” Armstrong wrote. In other words, don’t worry <em>too</em> much about the president’s extreme words or impulses — because a bad market reaction, or a whiff of unpopularity in the base, will spur him to back down quickly.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Viewed through one lens, Trump’s ceasefire in Iran is just the latest in a series of TACO examples. He threatened to <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/484932/trump-threat-war-crimes-electricity-bridges">end an entire civilization</a>… but, knowing a full-scale war would be massively unpopular and disruptive, he backtracked and <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/485118/trump-iran-ceasefire-escalate-to-deescalate">resumed negotiations</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And yet — the TACO theory also doesn’t quite fit what happened in Iran. Trump launched a war that lasted over a month, killed many of the country’s leaders and <a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/03/14/nx-s1-5746623/iran-war-cost-deaths">hundreds of civilians</a>, set the Middle East aflame, and did great damage to the global economy. It’s hard to characterize a mere two-week ceasefire as proof that Trump “always chickens out” when he had gone so far already, and done so much harm.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Indeed, it points to a risk of TACO thinking: The theory can become a kind of coping mechanism, lulling people (and perhaps markets) into a complacent denial of the damage Trump can do.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It might be more helpful, then, to look beyond what we might call — with apologies — the “hard TACO” theory, in which Trump <em>always</em> chickens out, and craft a more limited “soft TACO” theory instead.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The “soft TACO” theory of Trump is that, yes, he will often back away from the most extreme threat he’s made, or try eventually to wind down a crisis he caused.&nbsp;But contrary to Armstrong’s assertion that Trump has a “low tolerance for political or economic pain,” his tolerance can sometimes be quite high — even if it isn’t unlimited. And it’s important to pay attention to the very real damage he can do before he decides it’s time to climb down.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The soft TACO in action</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump’s second term has been chock-full of aggressive action from his administration, pushing the boundaries of presidential power in controversial and disruptive ways.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But a pattern has developed in which, sometimes, his actions cause a level of blowback — either political or economic — that he concludes is too intense. So he tries to roll things back at least somewhat. Examples include:</p>

<h3 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none">1. DOGE</h3>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump let Elon Musk run rampant through the federal bureaucracy for roughly the first six weeks of this term, firing civil servants and cutting contracts as he saw fit — at one point, he even <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114047677181856301">urged Musk</a> to “GET MORE AGGRESSIVE.” </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But after Musk-induced chaos kept dominating the headlines — and after Trump’s own Cabinet officials pushed back against Musk’s power — Trump leashed DOGE <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/402970/trump-elon-musk-doge-cabinet-secretaries">in early March</a>, saying future cuts should be done with Cabinet secretaries’ approval <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114117008305421663">and with</a> “the ‘scalpel’ rather than the ‘hatchet.’”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The change stuck and Musk headed for the exits. But other Trump officials, like Office of Management and Budget director Russell Vought, have <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/about-russell-vought-trump-shadow-president">continued</a> to try and remake the federal bureaucracy — albeit in less dramatically headline-grabbing ways.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The scale of the damage will also be difficult for a future president to reverse: Entire agencies were <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/appeals-court-stops-voa-journalists-from-quickly-returning.html">effectively shut down</a> and the federal workforce shrank by 10 percent in Trump’s first year, with <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/03/13/federal-workforce-shrank-10-in-trumps-first-year-back-in-office/">nearly 350,000 people</a> fired, quitting, or retiring. And there’s no remedy for people in the world’s poorest countries who <a href="https://www.cgdev.org/blog/update-lives-lost-usaid-cuts">already suffered and died</a> waiting for lifesaving aid from programs that were eliminated in Musk’s purge.</p>

<h3 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none">2. Liberation Day</h3>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump stunned the world on April 2, 2025, by announcing “Liberation Day” tariffs on dozens of countries, set at levels that seemed to many to be <a href="https://x.com/jamessurowiecki/status/1907559189234196942?s=46&amp;t=pTARbFhEAzld7_PbPzMbYA">arbitrary and downright bizarre</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">After a week of deepening market turmoil, though, <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/407831/trump-tariffs-90-day-pause-cave-walkback">he blinked</a> — announcing a 90-day “pause” on many of those exorbitant tariffs, to allow for negotiations with the targeted countries. This gave rise to the “TACO” concept.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But this wasn’t a complete climbdown. The <a href="https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/introducing-tariff-rate-tracker-open-source-tool-daily-effective-tariff-rates">Budget Lab at Yale</a> calculates that the daily effective tariff rate was 2.3 percent when Trump took office — and it’s at 11.05 percent now. That’s down from the peak of 21 percent after Liberation Day, but it’s still quite a lot higher than pre-Trump levels, and it sat between 14 and 16 percent for much of the last year before the Supreme Court <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/479919/supreme-court-trump-tariffs-learning-resources">ruled</a> some Trump tariffs illegal. He’s still seeking to institute new tariffs under different legal authority.</p>

<h3 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none">3. Minneapolis</h3>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Beginning around June 2025, the Trump administration escalated its mass deportation agenda by pursuing highly visible, militarized, and aggressive immigration enforcement in specific cities — provoking and apparently welcoming tense confrontations with protesters in Los Angeles, Chicago, and Minneapolis.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But in Minneapolis this January, two Americans — Renée Good and Alex Pretti — were shot dead by immigration officials; videos of the killings provoked viral outrage. Pretti’s killing proved a particular flashpoint, particularly when DHS officials <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/reported-shooting-south-minneapolis-federal-agents-protesters/#post-update-517ad161">falsely portrayed him</a> as an aggressor.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">At that point, Trump decided he’d had enough. He <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/">removed</a> top DHS officials from their posts (including, eventually, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-says-kristi-noem-stepping-homeland-security-secretary-rcna248719">Secretary Kristi Noem</a>). He empowered less hard-line officials to <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/12/homan-announces-end-to-minnesota-immigration-enforcement-surge-00777990">end the enforcement surge</a> in Minneapolis. More broadly, he appears to have abandoned the idea that immigration enforcement should be carried out via street battles in blue cities.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump’s climbdown here shows he was not entirely captured by hardline advisers or ideology — and that he did not feel so insulated from political consequences that he could ignore such intense backlash. But it took months — and two deaths — to get him to back down. And he hasn’t backed away from mass deportation; he’s just <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/05/us/politics/stephen-miller-immigration-agenda.html">doing it more quietly</a>.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Trump’s dangerous lesson</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Whenever Trump backs down from one crisis of his own making, he provokes another soon afterward.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Minneapolis was barely out of the headlines when Trump <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html">met with</a> Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on February 11 to hear his pitch on attacking Iran. And he’d just pulled another TACO on Greenland only weeks earlier, once again <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/476024/greenland-us-europe-nato-davos-trump-deal">reluctantly backing down</a> only when the markets began taking his threats seriously.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">According to a new report by the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html">New York Times’ Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman</a>,&nbsp;Tucker Carlson urged Trump not to go through with the Iran attack — but Trump told him “it’s going to be OK,” adding, “because it always is.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump appears to have internalized the lesson that he can act to provoke crises — and always, eventually, rein things in if they get too out of control. That is: that he can do a soft TACO, and it will be okay.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But the Iran war is proving the biggest test of that idea to date, in large part because there’s another player involved this time that <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/483876/trump-iran-end-war-victory-taco">can veto a TACO</a> with missiles, drones, and mines if they want, and may have different pain thresholds. That’s a different dynamic than his other self-provoked crises and, regardless of how the war ends, it’s an important demonstration of how one rash, binary decision can spiral out of control despite Trump’s intentions.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s unclear if the ceasefire will even hold — some <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-ceasefire-trump-hormuz-israel-lebanon-rcna267205">attacks continued</a> in the region Wednesday morning. It will also be quite challenging to strike a permanent deal with Iran that satisfies Trump’s demands on nuclear material, the Strait of Hormuz, and other issues. And if such a deal remains elusive, might he be tempted to strike again?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Finally, the attacks and retaliation from Iran have done a great deal of damage to the global economy that will be felt <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/energy-environment/iran-war-oil-gas-prices-energy.html">for months or years</a>. Trump’s soft TACO may be able to reverse some of that — but it can’t fix everything that’s been broken.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Elon Musk created a monster that’s tearing the right apart]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Since Elon Musk bought Twitter in 2022, it has often seemed that he transformed a platform that favored progressives into one that bolstered the right instead. And in the years after that purchase, the right’s political fortunes improved dramatically. The woke era came to a close, conservatives gained the upper hand in the culture war, [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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	Elon Musk speaks during an America PAC town hall on October 26, 2024, in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. | Samuel Corum/Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Since Elon Musk bought Twitter in 2022, it has often seemed that he transformed a platform that favored progressives into one that bolstered the right instead.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And in the years after that purchase, the right’s political fortunes improved dramatically. The woke era <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/378644/progressives-left-backlash-retreat-kamala-harris-pivot-center">came to a close</a>, conservatives gained the upper hand in the culture war, and President Donald Trump returned to power while Democrats and leftists became disillusioned and dispirited. A mood of right-wing triumph pervaded the platform Musk renamed X.</p>

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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



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<li>Elon Musk’s changes at X (such as rolling back content moderation policies and creator payouts), plus progressives’ departure, have turned it into a platform where the right mainly argues with the extreme right.</li>



<li>Now, even right-wingers like Christopher Rufo are perturbed by how popular bigotry and conspiracy theories are becoming on X, as feuds and controversies erupt there and shake the GOP.</li>



<li>Meanwhile, the Trump administration remains obsessed with pandering to the online right, putting them out of touch with ordinary voters and endangering the multiracial MAGA 2.0 coalition.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">But in recent months, X has lost its ability to unite the right. Instead, it’s increasingly the place where Trump supporters turn on each other.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Intense and bitter public feuds have broken out over such topics as Israel, <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/465329/young-republican-leaked-groupchat-antisemitism-shapiro-walsh">antisemitism</a>, <a href="https://x.com/DineshDSouza/status/1985171317377638727">bigotry against Indian Americans</a>, and whether people whose ancestors came to the US more recently should be considered <a href="https://x.com/EWErickson/status/2001808543519838302">less authentically American</a>. Conspiracy theories are running rampant, with many <a href="https://x.com/HarmeetKDhillon/status/2005446072634872033">targeting</a> the Trump administration itself.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Importantly, much of this is happening <em>because </em>of X. That is: the changes to the platform’s policies and culture that have been made under Musk’s ownership have altered the norms of what it’s acceptable for right-wingers to say, and have incentivized a race to the bottom for engagement. It turns out that once guardrails against bigotry and misinformation are removed, there’s a huge audience-side “demand” on the right for both.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“On the right, the public mind is now shaped by the X algorithm,” right-wing activist and X power-user <a href="https://christopherrufo.com/p/how-the-media-shape-our-thinking?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=1248321&amp;post_id=181827865&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=true&amp;r=110ak&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email">Christopher Rufo recently wrote</a>, arguing that X has usurped the role formerly held by Fox News. But, he went on, “the platform’s algorithm seems increasingly hijacked by bad actors who peddle baseless conspiracies” for “clicks, dollars, and shares.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Meanwhile, as X grows more extreme and disconnected from reality, top Trump officials <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/399984/online-right-musk-vance-elez-antiwoke">remain obsessed with</a> pandering to its user base — focused on throwing red meat to the online right, rather than trying to win back the ordinary voters who have soured on the president.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In all this lies the seeds for the potential destruction of the MAGA 2.0 coalition. Controversies over antisemitism are shaking right-wing institutions like the <a href="https://www.vox.com/on-the-right-newsletter/468517/heritage-carlson-fuentes-roberts-trump-vance-insider">Heritage Foundation</a>. Overt bigotry and an obsession with online nonsense <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/373535/3-theories-gop-donald-trump-nonwhite-voters-hispanic-black-latino-asian">seem ill-suited</a> to retaining the loyalty of the voters of color who backed Trump for the first time in 2024.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And in a way, this is a familiar story. Just a few years ago, when progressives were the most influential Twitter users, it was Democrats who often mistook retweets for reality and got out of touch with ordinary voters. Now it’s the right’s turn in the barrel.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Why Twitter/X is so important and powerful</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Twitter was, and X remains, the closest thing we have to a “public square” where people of varying ideological persuasions from different walks of life come together and say what’s on their minds.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Many of our country’s elites are still on the platform, which helps shape their views of what ideas are in vogue and correct — and how to make sense of the world. Amid an increasingly atomized media and content environment, it’s still the place where various writers and streamers and podcasters come together and talk directly to each other, rather than just to their own audiences.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Crucial to the platform’s power is the pile-on, in which large numbers of users come together to say that someone or something is bad. The pile-on is enjoyable to its participants, who derive meaning and belonging from coming together against a common enemy. Potential targets of the pile-on — corporations, media figures, politicians, other institutions — fear it, and shape their behavior to try to avoid it.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet the platform is also, in a sense, a trap. The saying goes that “Twitter isn’t real life” — though that sentiment has seemed somewhat quaint as real life and Twitter have come to resemble one another. But there remains a core truth to it: the platform’s heaviest users tend to be deeply politically engaged and ideological, while the many Americans who follow politics less closely or have more mainstream views are far less represented and vocal. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The problem is that political actors and coalition participants seeking to gauge what people think of something use X and other feedback mechanisms that are dominated by the most super-engaged slice of their base. For many, the day-to-day work of their job essentially becomes pandering to their super-engaged supporters. (After all, if they’re mad at you, they’re surely going to let you know it, and you’ll likely try to make the problem go away.)</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">How Musk changed Twitter</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Twitter was crucial in driving and amplifying the emboldened social justice activism of the 2010s and early 2020s. Musk then bought it to try and combat that activism, and he changed how the platform worked in a few important ways:</p>

<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>He rolled back content moderation policies against hate speech and misinformation, restoring many previously banned accounts (such as that of the antisemite <a href="https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/elon-musk-nick-fuentes-x-account">Nick Fuentes</a>)</li>



<li>He started letting anyone buy the “blue check” verified status previously given to journalists and other prominent figures</li>



<li>He used creator payouts to incentivize people to create viral content</li>
</ul>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Finally and crucially, Musk also sparked an exodus. Many of the vocal progressives who had long set Twitter’s dominant tone and culture <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/12/us-election-bluesky-users-flee-x-twitter-trump-musk">quit using the platform</a> in protest of his behavior.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The combination of these changes transformed X from a platform where right-wingers talked alongside progressives to a platform where the relatively more “reasonable” right-wingers talked alongside kooks and virulent bigots. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">On Twitter, if you said something too bigoted, you could be banned. On X, that won’t happen — and indeed, creator payouts may give you an incentive to say even more bigoted things, if an audience likes it. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Tucker Carlson was fired from Fox and moved his show to X, and has since hosted increasingly extreme characters, culminating in his <a href="https://www.vox.com/podcasts/468421/fuentes-tucker-carlson-heritage-nazi-vance-republicans">interview of Fuentes</a> this fall, an interview that kick-started a controversy that eventually led to <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/22/heritage-staff-join-pence-nonprofit-00703192">many resignations</a> from the most important conservative think tank, the Project 2025-authoring Heritage Foundation.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">All this helped change right-wing norms and standards on what is acceptable to say publicly, to the dawning horror of some in the movement. After being bombarded with anti-Indian attacks in October, conservative commentator <a href="https://x.com/DineshDSouza/status/1980625154163020047">Dinesh D’Souza</a> — not exactly <a href="https://www.vox.com/2014/10/8/6936717/dinesh-dsouza-explained">the most politically correct guy around</a> — wrote: “In a career spanning 40 years, I have never encountered this type of rhetoric. The Right never used to talk like this. So who on our side has legitimized this type of vile degradation?”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Rufo, for his part, is not exactly uniformly opposed to racially charged conspiracy theories: He <a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5112682/springfield-influencers-haitian-immigrants-social-media-trump">happily spread</a> the accusation that Haitian immigrants were eating pets in Ohio last year. But he’s been perturbed by <a href="https://www.city-journal.org/article/conservatives-trump-anti-semitism-conspiracism-racialism">three ideological trends</a> he saw gaining steam among parts of the right: racialism, antisemitism, and conspiracism. These trends have only worsened as the year continued — for instance, in the conspiracy theories over the murder of Charlie Kirk. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Lately, Rufo has <a href="https://christopherrufo.com/p/how-the-media-shape-our-thinking?utm_source=post-email-title&amp;publication_id=1248321&amp;post_id=181827865&amp;utm_campaign=email-post-title&amp;isFreemail=true&amp;r=110ak&amp;triedRedirect=true&amp;utm_medium=email">pointed the finger</a> at X’s algorithm as a main culprit, complaining that “Musk’s decision to pay content creators has further detached reach from quality” and urged him to make changes on the platform.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Longtime conservative blogger Razib Khan expressed similar concerns, recently <a href="https://x.com/razibkhan/status/2004742441317138769">writing</a> that he’s “starting to worry reading X and seeing the impact of youtube influencers that we&#8217;re going to lose because our arguments are starting to sound very stupid.” This shift, he added, <a href="https://x.com/razibkhan/status/2004744444206301554">represents</a> “a major decrease in IQ.”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Trump administration&#8217;s X obsession – and the attempt to reunite the online right</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">X has grown more extreme amid a remarkable context: The second Trump administration is the most online in US history, with many current top officials positively obsessed with how they are viewed among the online right, and turning to X first to assess that.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Indeed, Trump administration policy seems to be driven in part by Trump’s own personalistic whims, in part by White House adviser Stephen Miller’s anti-immigrant fanaticism, and in part by various officials’ independent attempts to try and impress online right influencers.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The examples are legion. The continuing saga over the “Epstein files” began as Attorney General Pam Bondi’s <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/401996/jeffrey-epstein-files-influencers-pam-bondi">botched attempt</a> to pander to right-wing influencers. Top FBI officials Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are chronically online and <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5628449-fbi-director-patel-report/">obsessed</a> with criticism from right-wing influencers over their supposed failures to reveal deep-state conspiracies. FCC chair Brendan Carr’s threats against Jimmy Kimmel <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/09/19/nx-s1-5546764/fcc-brendan-carr-kimmel-trump-free-speech">were made</a> as tough talk to impress a right-wing streamer. And Vice President JD Vance is the most online of all, driven to <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/399984/online-right-musk-vance-elez-antiwoke">defend the honor of racist shitposters</a> so long as they’re on his side.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This continued obsession with pleasing the fringiest figures on the right does not seem to have been very successful at making Trump popular — his approval rating <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/polls/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls.html">is mired at about 42</a> percent, with 54 percent disapproving of his job performance. Yet his administration has plowed ahead with its base-pleasing strategy regardless, either mistaking X for ordinary voter sentiment, or thinking X is more important to their future career prospects than ordinary voters are.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Rabbit holes, conspiracy theories, and bigotry are spreading on X with no end in sight, and alienating the less extreme people who are exposed to it. But right-wingers’ hope is that they can restore their frayed unity by redirecting their energy to targets they can all agree on.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And they’ve had some success on that in recent days, in right-wing outrage about fraud allegedly committed by Somali immigrants against Minnesota’s welfare programs. It was in fact Rufo who <a href="https://www.city-journal.org/article/minnesota-welfare-fraud-somalia-al-shabaab">helped focus</a> the right’s attention on <a href="https://www.startribune.com/heres-what-to-know-about-minnesotas-fraud-crisis/601542128">this long-public scandal,</a> and a young conservative YouTube influencer who helped it <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/30/media/nick-shirley-minnesota-somali-video">go mega-viral</a> in recent days. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">On this topic, they could all agree on who the bad guys were: African immigrants, Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, and the media. It was like old times. Can it last?</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is CBS News censoring 60 Minutes?]]></title>
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			<updated>2025-12-22T17:49:04-05:00</updated>
			<published>2025-12-22T17:35:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Is CBS News editor-in-chief Bari Weiss censoring critical coverage of the Trump administration to please the network’s billionaire backers and the president himself? It’s the crisis many have anticipated since Weiss — a center-right provocateur known for her outspoken criticism of “wokeness” and support for Israel — was appointed atop CBS News in October. And [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Is CBS News editor-in-chief Bari Weiss censoring critical coverage of the Trump administration to please the network’s billionaire backers and the president himself?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s the crisis many have anticipated since Weiss — a center-right provocateur known for her outspoken criticism of “wokeness” and support for Israel — was appointed <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/463751/bari-weiss-free-press-cbs-ellison-paramount">atop CBS News in October</a>. And now it’s here.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">On Sunday, <em>60 Minutes</em> was set to air a report on conditions in El Salvador’s CECOT prison, where the Trump administration has sent migrants. But <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/12/21/cbs-news-bari-weiss-intervention/">Saturday night,</a> Weiss intervened to spike the story, <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/21/media/60-minutes-cecot-bari-weiss-cbs-sharyn-alfonsi">declaring</a> it was not “ready” for publication.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A flurry of leaks then ensued, including <a href="https://x.com/yashar/status/2002945520730518013/photo/1">an internal email</a> from Sharyn Alfonsi, a correspondent on the story. Alfonsi asserted it had been fully reviewed and approved by the network’s standards and legal team, and that Weiss’s move was therefore “political,” “a betrayal,” and “corporate censorship.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Weiss’s own internal explanation <a href="https://x.com/brianstelter/status/2003109385367601520">then leaked</a>: She insisted both that there was not enough new in the report and insisted it should include Trump officials giving an on-camera interview. “I look forward to airing this important piece when it’s ready,” she <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/21/business/60-minutes-trump-bari-weiss.html">told the New York Times</a> in a statement. Other criticisms she’d made internally about the piece <a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/12/22/60-minutes-bari-weiss-cecot">were later leaked</a> to Axios, and they boiled down to: not enough was done to explain the administration’s point of view.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Behind Weiss’s move, her critics suspect, is an effort to please Larry and David Ellison, the father-and-son billionaires who helped purchase CBS’s parent company, Paramount, earlier this year. The Ellisons subsequently bought Weiss’s publication, the Free Press, <a href="https://variety.com/2025/biz/news/bari-weiss-view-host-cbs-news-editor-in-chief-free-press-1236542406/">making her very rich</a>, and installed her atop a pillar of the mainstream media despite her lack of any experience in TV news.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Ellisons are hoping the Trump administration will intervene to help them pull off <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/22/business/larry-ellison-paramount-warner-brothers-bid.html">another media mega-deal</a>. The problem is that President Donald Trump has been very vocal about his unhappiness with <em>60 Minutes</em>’s recent coverage of his administration — he’s <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115684406134734247">insisted</a> it’s <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115730908630818072">gotten worse</a> since the Ellisons took it over. The implied quid pro quo seems obvious: shape coverage of Trump more to his liking, or say goodbye to your media mega-deal.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet there’s also a throughline that connects Weiss’s behavior here with her longstanding editorial line toward Trump — epitomized in the approach of the Free Press. That publication frequently runs criticisms of the Trump administration. But, typically, it tries to make sure it is done in a delicate and careful way, with sensitivity toward how its right-wing audience would receive it and care not to trigger them.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That is, when it comes to Trump, Weiss has long tried hard to be “politically correct.”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The billionaires behind the curtain</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Let’s start by paying attention to the billionaires behind the curtain.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Larry Ellison has long supported Trump, and he and his son currently want the Trump administration to use antitrust review to scuttle Netflix’s purchase of Warner Bros. Discovery, so they can combine WB with Paramount to create an entertainment and media powerhouse.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But Trump is no cheap date. He’s making his price clear.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">On December 8, <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115684406134734247" rel="nofollow">Trump complained</a> on Truth Social that<em> 60 Minutes</em> aired an interview in which his onetime ally Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) criticized him. But he clarified that his “real problem with the show” wasn’t Greene, it was that ‘the new ownership” would even “allow a show like this to air.” He continued: “THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN THE OLD OWNERSHIP… Since they bought it, 60 Minutes has actually gotten WORSE!”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">He reiterated that complaint <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115730908630818072" rel="nofollow">in another post Tuesday</a>: “For those people that think I am close with the new owners of CBS, please understand that 60 Minutes has treated me far worse since the so-called ‘takeover,’ than they have ever treated me before. If they are friends, I’d hate to see my enemies!”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Anonymously sourced reports from Trumpworld <a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/12/08/2025/finger-pointing-in-washington-as-paramount-goes-hostile-in-bid-for-warner-bros">soon</a> <a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/12/16/2025/trump-clan-distances-itself-from-ellisons-and-paramount">suggested</a> that the Ellisons’ hopes for federal intervention may be in vain. And a fund that had supported the Ellisons’ bid — Affinity Partners, run by Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner — <a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/12/16/2025/trump-clan-distances-itself-from-ellisons-and-paramount">pulled out</a> from the deal last week.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">At a rally on Friday, <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/21/media/60-minutes-cecot-bari-weiss-cbs-sharyn-alfonsi">Trump complained</a> about <em>60 Minutes </em>again, saying they’ve “treated me worse under the new ownership,” and that “they just keep hitting me, it&#8217;s crazy.&#8221;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The next day, on Saturday, Weiss decided to spike the CECOT story, which was set to air Sunday.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Bari Weiss’s political correctness toward Trump</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet it isn’t exactly surprising that Weiss would be skeptical about a hard-hitting investigative report into the Trump administration’s abuses.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Free Press is distinguished by its opposition to “wokeness” and its staunch support of Israel. But in contrast to other center-right publications that distinguished themselves from their more conservative brethren by criticizing Trump, Weiss’s Free Press was, at the very least, Trump-curious.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">To be sure, the Free Press ran criticism of Trump. But Weiss <a href="https://www.wsj.com/opinion/notable-quotable-bari-weisss-tds-trump-derangement-syndrome-9e18779f">criticized</a> what she called the “overzealous, out-of-touch, hysterical reaction” to Trump in his first term, particularly scorning claims that he was a budding authoritarian. In fact, it was Trump’s critics, she said, who often proved “extraordinarily authoritarian and totalitarian.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So, in contrast to the Free Press’s hair-on-fire coverage of leftists on campus, the publication took a notably measured tone toward Trump’s second term. One go-to move for when the administration did something that was widely viewed as outrageous or terrible was to convene an <a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/is-donald-trump-breaking-the-law">expert</a> <a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/maha-a-success-or-failure">roundtable</a> — get some critics in there as well as some Trump supporters, and let the readers decide.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump was not, so far as we know, reading the Free Press. But the anti-woke audience Weiss was cultivating was full of Trump supporters, and to keep them subscribing, Weiss had to ensure the Free Press never became viewed as overtly anti-Trump, even after Trump regained office and began imposing a hardline agenda.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Some commentators who liked Weiss’s anti-wokeness takes were appalled by this turn. “The almost total avoidance of coverage of the current government threats to freedoms as basic as habeas corpus, due process and free speech on campus is quite something,” <a href="https://substack.com/@sullydish/note/c-110401553">Andrew Sullivan wrote,</a> adding: “When there is coverage, it’s nitpicking in order to defend Trump.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">We don’t actually know what the CBS News CECOT report contains. But it is common for investigative journalists to take an adversarial approach to the people in power — to expose abuses by them and try to hold them to account. In Alfonsi’s email, she framed her CECOT story as “giving voice to the voiceless.” Weiss’s longtime critique, though, is that she believes mainstream journalistic institutions became <em>too</em> adversarial and reflexively hostile to Donald Trump.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Before Weiss founded the Free Press, she was a mid-level editor at the New York Times’s opinion section. But in summer 2020, she publicly posted her “<a href="https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter">Resignation Letter</a>,” blasting the paper for what she said was progressive groupthink and a culture hostile to conservative or even centrist views.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In the letter, she complained that on certain topics, “self-censorship” had become “the norm” at the paper. She complained that politically sensitive pieces were treated according to a different set of rules and standards, and that they could run &#8220;only after every line is carefully massaged, negotiated and caveated.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This sounds like what Weiss is doing right now. Some of the criticisms she’s made of the CECOT story — that it doesn’t have on-camera interviews with Trump officials and doesn’t break enough news — sound strained, unconvincing, and unlikely to be the true reason for this high-profile last-minute intervention.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Rather, Weiss saw a torrent of criticism from the right (and, plausibly, Trump himself) headed her way, made an awkward intervention to try to prevent it from happening, and consequently created a far greater uproar.</p>

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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[The Epstein files release did nothing to clear up the scandal&#8217;s biggest question]]></title>
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			<id>https://www.vox.com/?p=473124</id>
			<updated>2025-12-20T10:07:03-05:00</updated>
			<published>2025-12-20T08:44:27-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[The Trump administration was legally required to release all documents related to federal investigations of Jeffrey Epstein by Friday, with only limited grounds for withholding documents and full explanations required for any redactions. It did not do this. Or anything close to it. The Justice Department released several thousand documents Friday, but top officials acknowledged [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<img alt="A finger points at a photo of Epstein and Maxwell" data-caption="Acting US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Audrey Strauss, announces charges against Ghislaine Maxwell during a July 2, 2020, press conference in New York City. | Johannes Eisele/AFP via Getty Images" data-portal-copyright="Johannes Eisele/AFP via Getty Images" data-has-syndication-rights="1" src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/12/GettyImages-1224326172.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" />
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	Acting US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Audrey Strauss, announces charges against Ghislaine Maxwell during a July 2, 2020, press conference in New York City. | Johannes Eisele/AFP via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">The Trump administration <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405/text">was legally required</a> to release all documents related to federal investigations of Jeffrey Epstein by Friday, with only limited grounds for withholding documents and full explanations required for any redactions.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It did not do this. Or anything close to it.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Justice Department released <a href="https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures">several thousand documents</a> Friday, but top officials <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/19/epstein-documents-release-friday-deadline-00699935?utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_source=dlvr.it">acknowledged</a> that they had hundreds of thousands more that weren’t released yet, purportedly because they weren’t reviewed or ready. Most of the documents they did release were photos — either photos the FBI took of Epstein’s properties, or photos Epstein himself possessed. Of the investigative documents released, many were entirely redacted, covered in black boxes.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Some of the leading Republicans who’d pushed the administration for disclosure expressed disappointment in their compliance, with Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) <a href="https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/2002155838467965273">saying</a> the release “grossly fails to comply with both the spirit and the letter of the law.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Unsurprisingly, these limited releases do nothing to clear up the swirling questions people had about the Epstein scandal.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And while some of those swirling questions amount to conspiracy theories that will never be definitively cleared up by any document release, there is one big question that <em>could</em> be answered to some extent by documents in the government’s possession.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Namely, did investigators believe there were other men involved in Epstein’s sex crimes, and if so, why didn’t they charge any of them?</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The Justice Department has documents that would answer this question</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Officials at the Justice Department have been very clear that they believe Epstein sexually abused at least hundreds of women or underage girls in the 1990s and 2000s.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But officials have been much less clear on a related question: whether Epstein trafficked certain of these women or girls to any of his prominent and influential friends.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Certain Epstein accusers — most notably, the late Virginia Roberts Giuffre — claimed that this is indeed what happened to them. Giuffre <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361039/Prince-Andrew-girl-17-sex-offender-friend-flew-Britain-meet-him.html?ito=feeds-newsxml">said publicly</a> that Epstein groomed her to have sex with him and his influential friends in exchange for money, which she did for a few years. And Giuffre specifically named some of the men who she said participated, including the UK’s now-former Prince Andrew.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The FBI has been aware of Giuffre’s allegations since 2011. <a href="https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%204/EFTA00005711.pdf">One of the documents </a>in the new release describes some of officials’ conversations with Giuffre that year, in which she “indicated Epstein had instructed her to have sex with numerous associates in both the United States and overseas.” </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It is primarily Giuffre’s claims that convinced many people that Epstein was not only abusing victims himself, but that he was also providing young women and underage girls to other men.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet no other men were ever charged with Epstein-related crimes. And the big question is: why not?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There are many possible explanations, ranging from the prosaic (evidentiary problems, statutes of limitation) to the nefarious (cover-up) to somewhere in between (questions about witness credibility). But surely, at some point, someone involved in the investigation wrote something down about this, assessing whether Giuffre’s claims appeared credible, whether other women made similar claims, and whether such claims merited further investigation — or not.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">More broadly, investigators had to at some point grapple with whether they themselves thought the evidence suggested Epstein was supplying girls or young women to his friends.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Typically, such internal assessments would never see the light of day if they didn’t result in charges. But they should be somewhere in the Justice Department’s Epstein files. So will we ever see them, or not?</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[How to consume the Epstein files responsibly]]></title>
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			<id>https://www.vox.com/?p=473090</id>
			<updated>2025-12-19T14:45:25-05:00</updated>
			<published>2025-12-19T14:40:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hundreds of thousands of pages of the Justice Department’s files related to investigations of Jeffrey Epstein are set to be released Friday, and though all the files won’t be released just yet, this batch is sure to create a frenzy on social media when it drops. The Epstein scandal is an important national story, and [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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	A protest group holds up signs of Jeffrey Epstein in front of the Federal courthouse on July 8, 2019 in New York City. | Stephanie Keith/Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Hundreds of thousands of pages of the Justice Department’s files related to investigations of Jeffrey Epstein are set to be released Friday, and though all the files won’t be released just yet, this batch is sure to create a frenzy on social media when it drops.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Epstein scandal is an important national story, and key questions about it remain unanswered. Hopefully these documents will shed some light on these questions. Valuable and even revelatory information could well be in the released files somewhere.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But as the hivemind of the internet grapples with this imminent release, one thing that’s sure to ensue is an onslaught of misleading, out of context, or outright wrong claims — many of which will go viral — about what these files show.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The way social media functions, this is inevitable. People will post anything they see that looks suspicious or damning, and the posts that express the most outrage will go the most viral. In some cases, this viral outrage may be merited; in others, it won’t.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The documented facts about Epstein — that he abused hundreds of young women and underage girls, while maintaining friendships with powerful and influential people — are damning. They’ve helped make the Epstein saga the <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/420913/jeffrey-epstein-scandal-trump-democrats-conspiracy-theories">mother of all conspiracy theories</a>, with something for practically every political faction to obsess over. Any tidbit in the files that can conceivably be used to bolster the darkest theories will be so used.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The nature of investigatory files, though, is that they will include a ton of information that is hearsay, rumor, unproven, or false. This, my colleague <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy/469461/doj-case-against-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files">Ian Millhiser recently wrote</a>, is why the Department of Justice typically doesn’t release files like these — because they could smear people with false or unproven information, without giving them a chance to prove their innocence in a court of law.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Elon Musk’s X is a sewer where the most virulent right-wing-coded conspiracy theories regularly go viral. It’s beyond hope. But Democrats — and many journalists, particularly in their social media posts — haven’t always reacted all that responsibly to these Epstein revelations either. (Last month, House Democrats released an email in which Epstein said Trump had spent “hours” with a victim at his house; however, it <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/468502/epstein-emails-trump-hours-house-virginia-giuffre">quickly emerged</a> that the victim in question has long said Trump never abused her.)</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But I cling to the hope that there are people out there who are legitimately interested in trying to find out what actually happened, and who are not just looking for ammo to use against their political opponents or prove the conspiracy theories they’re already completely sure are true. So if you, dear reader, are interested in advice on how to consume the Epstein files responsibly, read onward.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What not to do</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">To many, it looked damning. Just last month, the New York Times’s David Brooks had written <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/opinion/epstein-trump-conspiracy.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share">a column</a> arguing that there was too much focus on the Epstein story. On Thursday, after a new release by House Democrats, it turned out that Brooks was in the Epstein files, implicated, photographed, hobnobbing with the man himself! Clearly, his column was an enormous ethical violation, covering up his own complicity!</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But was any of that actually true?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In fact, Brooks <a href="https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/2001788765967417679">told reporter Max Tani</a> Thursday that he’s never even met Epstein. He said he attended a TED conference in 2011 “and was invited to an adjacent dinner.” He continued: “There were about 60 people there if memory serves. Apparently Epstein was also at this dinner. I don&#8217;t think we met or exchanged a word. I never heard of Epstein until I read a Miami Herald story about him in 2018. I&#8217;ve never had any contact with him by email or any other means.&#8221;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Brooks’s clarification does, in fact, still tell us something about Epstein’s influence; the dinner in question, an annual event called the “billionaires’ dinner,” was put on by an organization called Edge that <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/jeffrey-epstein-bezos-musk-billionaires-dinner">was in part funded</a> by Epstein. But Epstein wasn’t the face of the organization or the dinner, and he wasn’t very well-known nationally then (in 2011). So on its face, Brooks’s account — that he went there to have dinner with a bunch of billionaires and had never heard of Jeffrey Epstein — sounds plausible.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But many on social media were already convinced of his malfeasance. After all, there was a <em>picture</em> of him in the <em>Epstein files!</em> (Even though the picture in question was one of several from the dinner that <a href="https://www.edge.org/event/the-edge-billionaires-dinner-2011">had been on Edge’s website for years</a>.) Clearly, they argued, Brooks’s denials must be lies. So in the minds of many, Brooks is guilty until proven innocent, and if prior experience is any guide, the denunciations of him will be far more viral than any attempt by him to correct the record.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A more responsible way of assessing this information would have been to pause and assess what it actually shows, which was: House Democrats released a picture of Brooks at a dinner that Epstein also attended. Pausing to try to ascertain when the dinner was, who else attended, and other basic facts would have been the responsible reaction. Instead, the default social media response was to run around like a chicken with its head cut off and yell: “David Brooks is in the Epstein files!”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Focus on the big picture</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So what actually matters in the Epstein scandal?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">People have different unanswered questions. How did he make his money? Was he tied to intelligence agencies in some way? Did he really kill himself? Was Trump involved in his crimes?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Journalists have tried to answer these questions — take, for instance, the two new lengthy Times reports on <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/16/magazine/jeffrey-epstein-money-scams-investigation.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share">Epstein’s money</a> and his <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html">friendship with Trump</a>. The government has offered other answers, asserting that, yes, its investigation found <a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline">he did kill himself</a>. But many people have been unsatisfied with these answers, believing there must be more to the story.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Personally, the biggest unanswered questions I have about the Epstein scandal that the files could conceivably shed light on are: Did investigators believe other men committed sex crimes with Epstein, and, if so, why weren’t any of them charged?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For background: Hundreds of women have accused Epstein of sexually abusing them in the 1990s or 2000s. There is also a smaller subset of that vast group of victims that has said Epstein trafficked them to other men as well.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This, of course, has been the centerpiece of Epstein theories — that he was not just a solo sexual predator, but rather a procurer and supplier of young women and underage girls to his wealthy, powerful, and influential friends.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet none of these male friends has ever been charged by prosecutors with any crimes related to Epstein. (The only other person charged was Epstein’s longtime companion Ghislaine Maxwell.)</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So what did investigators conclude about the claims from certain Epstein accusers that other men were involved in his crimes? Why didn’t they bring charges about it?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That’s what I’ll be looking for in the files: candid assessments from prosecutors and investigators about what the evidence showed and why they didn’t move forward with charging anyone else. I have no idea if the Trump administration will choose to release this information — they could conceivably use loopholes to avoid doing so — but I’ll be on the lookout for it.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In contrast, information from the investigation phase — tips, rumors, leads — should be taken with several grains of salt. Not every source being interviewed by the FBI is honest. Not every lead checks out.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But the broader takeaway is that, if you’re interested in assessing whether something is actually true, you should assess where the information is coming from, how reliable it seems, whether it’s corroborated, whether it fits the timeline of what we know about the scandal, and more. You should not just take something as gospel truth because “it’s in the Epstein files!”</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[What you need to know before the Epstein Files come out]]></title>
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			<published>2025-12-18T17:30:00-05:00</published>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">The “Epstein Files” are maybe, finally, coming out — or at least, some of them are.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Friday is the deadline for the Justice Department to disclose materials from its two investigations into deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein after Congress passed a bill last month requiring it to do so within 30 days. There are still questions about what materials could be withheld or redacted, but it’s extremely likely we’ll see <em>something</em>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Ahead of that deadline, I spoke with my colleague Andrew Prokop for Vox’s daily newsletter, Today, Explained. We talked about how the Epstein scandal took over the second Trump administration, what could be released, and more. Our conversation, edited for length and clarity, is below, and you can sign up for the newsletter&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vox.com/pages/today-explained-newsletter-signup">here</a>&nbsp;for more conversations like this.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>How did this become the all-consuming story of the Trump administration?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">They really did it to themselves. No one was really talking about the Epstein case anymore except for a relatively small group of highly engaged online right-wingers who deeply believed there was a vast conspiracy the government was covering up, and that if Trump won the 2024 election, he could blow the lid off that conspiracy.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Then Trump wins, and his attorney general, Pam Bondi, tries to pander to these right-wing influencers by inviting them to the White House and giving them these binders that were supposedly the Epstein Files, and they contain absolutely nothing new. It&#8217;s a huge embarrassment, and it raises the question of, kind of like, what&#8217;s going on here? Is the administration trying to hide something? </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Since then, there&#8217;s been this drip, drip, drip of revelations about Donald Trump&#8217;s own closeness to Jeffrey Epstein, something that had long been known, but I think that a lot of people hadn&#8217;t really focused on.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>What specifically is DOJ being compelled to release?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Department of Justice and the FBI investigated Jeffrey Epstein during two different periods. One was in the mid-2000s — an investigation run in Florida about sex trafficking there — and about a decade later, around 2019, there was a New York-based investigation that eventually resulted in Epstein&#8217;s arrest and imprisonment, where he died before trial. As part of those investigations, investigators obtained a lot of evidence that the government presumably still has.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Typically, this investigative material is not released. But because of the nature of the Epstein case, there was this pressure that they needed to disclose more. Republican House leaders tried to stop this from happening, but once it was clear the bill had a majority, there was a stampede, and now everyone claims they supported it, including Donald Trump.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The bill calls for, within 30 days, the attorney general to release and make publicly available all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials that relate to Epstein, convicted sex trafficker and Epstein confidante Ghislaine Maxwell, or individuals named in connection with Epstein&#8217;s criminal activities.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There are some loopholes in this; records that would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution could be withheld as long as such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary. So the question is, how much good faith do they approach this with? Are they going to put everything out there, or are they going to claim that there are a lot of exceptions?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>What could we learn from the files?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Epstein had all these famous and powerful friends. He had this private island, private jets. And some of Epstein&#8217;s victims say that they were trafficked to other men as well, and have named certain of those men. That&#8217;s the biggest question that could be answered by an Epstein Files release: What did investigators conclude when they checked out these claims that Epstein was trafficking women or girls to other prominent, influential, powerful men? Did they look into this and conclude there&#8217;s nothing to it? Did they conclude it&#8217;s too hazy and they couldn&#8217;t prove anything? Or did they conclude, <em>Yeah, we think he actually did, but for whatever reason, we&#8217;re not going to bring charges</em>? </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Then the other question is about Trump and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html">his own closeness to Epstein</a>. I think we have a pretty clear picture of this relationship: It involved a lot of going to parties, going to events, hanging out with models, and this sort of basic sexism and harassment that they both demonstrated during this period. There hasn&#8217;t been a credible, corroborated claim of Epstein sex-trafficking a girl to Trump. Obviously, I would be skeptical that the Trump administration would release new files that have negative revelations about Donald Trump.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>What else should people be aware of before the files come out?&nbsp;</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">As part of an investigation, investigators find a lot of stuff that doesn&#8217;t hold up. People tell them all kinds of things, and they don&#8217;t really have any good basis for it. It is quite possible that this release will include a lot of juicy-sounding but dubious material that people told investigators, but that investigators themselves couldn&#8217;t corroborate.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>You&#8217;ve written about how this has become </strong><a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/420913/jeffrey-epstein-scandal-trump-democrats-conspiracy-theories"><strong>the mother of all conspiracy theories</strong></a><strong>, in a way that makes it really hard for the Trump administration to dismiss. How did that happen?&nbsp;</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There&#8217;s a particular way the Epstein scandal can resonate with just about anyone. There&#8217;s the generic “it&#8217;s powerful elites behind sex crimes” angle. There&#8217;s a #MeToo angle. Antisemites love this because Epstein was Jewish, and many of his friends were Jewish.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The more MAGA people were hoping that the Epstein Files would reveal that a bunch of Democrats were criminal sexual abusers and should be sent to jail. And the #Resistance people now see Trump&#8217;s own culpability as the center of this thing, and they want a scandal that hurts Donald Trump. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There are these unanswered questions that anyone can point to. Those are different questions, depending on who you&#8217;re talking about, but they&#8217;ll ask, “Oh, is Jeffrey Epstein tied to intelligence services? Who are the other men involved? Did Epstein really kill himself, or was there some kind of conspiracy to shut him up? How did he make his money?”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There&#8217;s been a lot of reporting on these topics, but I don&#8217;t think there will ever be enough to establish definitive answers for the people who continue to have these questions. Even when the Epstein Files are released, they&#8217;ll only feed more questions. There&#8217;s just going to be one conspiracy theory after another.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Why America gave up on economists]]></title>
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			<published>2025-12-12T06:00:00-05:00</published>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



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<li>Economists used to have a sort of special status in US policymaking; they were the consummate technocratic experts.<br></li>



<li>But over the past decade, both parties have increasingly been less enamored of economists — and economic thinking in general.<br></li>



<li>The reasons for this include Trump and Biden’s personalities, the rise of populist MAGA and progressive factions, plus structural changes in the economy and the information environment.<br></li>



<li>The consequences: more policies that economists dislike on the merits like tariffs and price controls — and also more badly designed policies that simply haven’t taken economic analysis into account.<br></li>



<li>Economists will only regain influence if political elites think they can help solve major problems, but right now they’re somewhat at a loss regarding voters’ current top concern — high prices.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">The US’s two major parties can agree on one thing: They don’t have much use for economists anymore.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">President Joe Biden ignored economists’ warnings about <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy/385932/biden-inflation-record-worse-unpopular-mistakes">the risks of inflation</a>. President Donald Trump dismissed economists’ arguments against <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/412751/trump-us-china-trade-war-tariff-pause-90-days">his tariffs</a>. And now, rising Democrats are backing <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/470028/price-controls-affordability-inflation-mamdani-rent-high-prices">price controls</a>, even though mainstream economists aligned with both parties say <a href="https://www.economicforces.xyz/p/do-i-really-have-to-explain-why-price">they typically backfire</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Economists’ way of thinking has fallen out of favor among the political class more broadly. The right has embraced Trump’s <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/471498/zero-sum-thinking-growth-economy-housing-politics">zero-sum worldview</a> and lost faith in expertise generally. Many progressives have rejected economists’ fundamental focus on <a href="https://www.piie.com/sites/default/files/2024-09/furman2024-09-27.pdf">trade-offs</a> and the <a href="https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/UnintendedConsequences.html">unintended consequences</a> of policy interventions. Both sides are down on the free market.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">All this marks a major change from many previous decades of US policymaking, in which economists were viewed as having a special sort of status among experts. Believed to epitomize intelligence and technocratic competence, their recommendations were viewed as more high-minded than those from ideologues or grubby interest groups.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Economists were the gurus of growth — and while, of course, they weren’t always listened to, it was widely believed that a president who wanted a strong economy should take their counsel seriously.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Not so much anymore. Economists, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/opinion/biden-jobs-infrastructure-economy.html">Ezra Klein has written</a>, were “simply far less influential” in the Biden administration, which turned instead to elite lawyers, activists, and the nonprofit world for expertise. And Trump isn’t particularly interested in economists’ recommendations — he has his own vision of how the economy works, and trusts it more than theirs.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The reasons economists fell off their lofty perch are in part personal: Neither Trump nor Biden enjoys highfalutin academic debates (in contrast to Obama and Clinton, who did). They’re in part coalitional: The free market GOP establishment was roiled by Trump’s rise, while Democrats accommodated a <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/377170/kamala-harris-economic-policy-new-progressive-economics">rising progressive faction</a> who blamed <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/7/18/15992226/neoliberalism-chait-austerity-democratic-party-sanders-clinton">neoliberalism</a> for the disappointments of the Clinton and Obama presidencies. And the reasons may also be partly structural, connected to bigger-picture changes in the economy, politics, or the information environment.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I tie it to the rise of populism on both the left and the right,” Greg Mankiw, a Harvard economist who advised George W. Bush’s administration, told me. “Both have a degree of skepticism toward traditional economic viewpoints from both the center-right and center-left.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“There are certain commonalities between Biden and Trump, in their rejection of a technocratic approach that thinks seriously about trade-offs,” said Jason Furman, a Harvard economist who advised the Clinton and Obama administrations. “I often find myself in despair about the direction.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It isn’t surprising that economists would bemoan their own loss of influence. But the question remains: Can a political system that sidelines economists deliver a prosperous, growing economy?&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So far, the results have not been promising. The public’s economic confidence <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1609/consumer-views-economy.aspx">turned sharply negative</a> under Biden, as inflation wrecked his presidency and sunk his party’s 2024 chances. It’s remained quite negative after Trump’s return, turning <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/403816/trump-economy-bad-polling-markets">what was his greatest political strength</a> into his greatest weakness.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There’s another problem. Even if you think mainstream economists have gotten a lot wrong in recent decades, their basic toolkit — modeling that assesses incentives and market behavior — is <a href="https://www.slowboring.com/p/econ-101-is-underrated">highly useful</a> if you want to design policies that will actually work.&nbsp;Sidelining economic analysis, in practice, means we’ll get more badly designed policies pleasing ideologues and interest groups — policies that will do little to help the American people or <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy/470890/economic-growth-housing-energy-abundance-prices">deliver the growth the country needs</a>.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The world of yesterday</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Economists’ influence pervaded the policymaking world for much of the 20th century and into the beginning of the 21st.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The dominant economic thinking varied, depending on the problems of the time and the party in power — from laissez-faire conservatives advocating noninterference with markets to Keynesian interventionists to the neoliberals who wanted to roll back certain interventiosn. But across administrations, economists were useful to politicians when they seemed to have expertise that could help fix the country’s problems.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In the neoliberal era, especially, economists’ stature soared. Their advice for escaping the economic woes of the late 1970s — raise interest rates to cut inflation, then get government out of the way and let markets go to work — appeared, amid an economy that <a href="https://data.worldbank.org/country/united-states">boomed for much of the 1980s and ’90s</a>, to have been proven out.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Though economists aligned with the two parties disagreed on many things, they shared an analytical toolkit and many core ideas: support for free trade, skepticism of unions, a belief that government intervention in markets often backfires, a concern that social programs distort incentives, a dread of running large deficits, and a fear inflation might return. This was the neoliberal consensus.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">We shouldn’t exaggerate how much sway economists had back then — politicians often rejected their advice, and individual economists couldn’t <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1984/07/08/business/business-forum-his-nagging-did-reagan-a-good-turn.html">depart too much</a> from their party line if they wanted to keep their seats at the table.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Still, they mattered. The Federal Reserve, chaired by elite economists like Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke, became a de facto fourth branch of government, and won <a href="https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19990215,00.html">glowing media coverage</a>; presidential interference in their workings was deemed unacceptable.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In Congress, modeling from the <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/13/14860856/congressional-budget-office-cbo-explained">Congressional Budget Office</a> was deemed hugely important in estimating the economic impact of new bills. “CBO is God around here, because policy lives and dies by CBO’s word,” <a href="https://www.taxnotes.com/research/federal/legislative-documents/congressional-tax-correspondence/grassley-rebuts-kerry-on-effect-of-capital-gains-tax-cuts/y4zl">Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) said</a> in 2006.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And across many different issues — <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/pubs/web/96344han.asp">education</a>, health care, environmental regulation — economists’ wonky analysis and modeling became central to policy debates, inside and outside the executive branch.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Great Recession is <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Hour-Prophets-Markets-Fracture/dp/031651232X">often said</a> to have ended this era, shattering confidence in economists and neoliberalism. But in practice, the Obama administration kept neoliberal wonkery alive and well. Obama thought it was important to hear out those he deemed to be the smartest economists, like <a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/obama-hill-democrats-meeting-094971">Larry Summers</a>. Meanwhile, the Romney-Ryan GOP of 2012 zealously defended free market economics. The true rupture came after that — under Presidents Trump and Biden.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The GOP’s breakup with economists</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For the GOP, the reason is simple enough: Trump. He carried out an outsider takeover of the party and the free-market-loving establishment. While Trump is sensitive to market reaction and relies to some extent on the advice of financiers, he is largely uninterested in the counsel of economists, unless, of course, they tell him what he wants to hear.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump came to office with his own intuitions and beliefs about how the economy actually works, shaped by his career in business and real estate. His worldview is fundamentally <a href="https://www.vox.com/a/donald-trump-books">zero-sum</a>. He rejects economists’ idea that more immigration and freer trade can grow the “pie” — the size of the economy — overall. Instead, he obsessively views the world in terms of who is winning or losing: who is getting the biggest slice. Furthermore, his desire to amass personal power clashes with economists’ skepticism, particularly within his own party, of government intervention and belief that markets tend to know best.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>For the sake of his trade war, Trump often urges voters to simply make do with less, saying: Your kids don’t really need so many dolls, do they?</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Immigration was likely more important than economics in powering Trump’s initial rise among GOP voters. But once he did rise, it became clear those voters didn’t actually care so much about conservative elites’ free market consensus. By maintaining those voters’ loyalty, Trump has dominated the party for a decade, and the old economically conservative institutions have either dwindled in relevance or adapted to better fit his worldview.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The breakup went both ways, as much of the party’s old economics establishment was — like <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/10/education-polarization-diploma-divide-democratic-party-working-class.html">many other college-educated professionals</a> — repulsed by Trump on personal and policy grounds. “Even though I’m supposed to be associated with the right, I view myself as closer to [Democrat] Jason Furman than Donald Trump,” Mankiw told me.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And while mainstream economists had much to dislike about Trump’s first term, his second term has horrified them even more.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For one, there’s his tariff agenda. Economists think tariffs are, fundamentally, taxes that make things more expensive and suppress economic activity — and that while there are certain situations where they could be useful, Trump’s broad (and erratic) use of them <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/408722/trump-tariffs-bessent-manufacturing-china">makes little sense</a>, will hurt growth, and will make many things more expensive for American consumers.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump’s attacks on the independence of the Federal Reserve — the citadel of economists’ influence — have also been shocking. Trump is frustrated that Fed chair Jerome Powell won’t lower interest rates. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who comes from the world of finance, has made another complaint: “All these PhDs over there, I don’t know what they do,” he <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/21/economy/bessent-trump-fed-mistakes-interest-rates">said in July</a>. “This is like universal basic income for academic economists.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Finally, this administration <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/25/us/politics/trump-intel-steel-minerals-china.html">has purchased stakes</a> in major companies and often <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/technology/warner-bros-deal-justice-department-gail-slater.html">pressured businesses</a> in ways that look quite corrupt, raising economists’ fears of “crony capitalism.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So far, the public has hated the results — Trump’s <a href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-poll-approval-economy-immigration-inflation-crime-9e5bd096964990e040bc4bacd9fcac21">polling on the economy</a> has been dismal this year, as voters remain irate about high prices. Rather than put forward a pro-growth agenda, though, Trump has insisted that the tariffs will continue until morale improves. For the sake of his trade war, he often urges voters to simply make do with less, <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-wanders-bizarre-riff-not-152845979.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIFAwFsdSJj5bzuBnGTXSKvkK_by8A2pxLvSxZ4hsytQUSPn7ZbHUBfZM10deM05zb4F4MrGFvdiOjtCt-a6Q0ah3guHcUiTt3EqhpOPGdXu95Vau3XfyRXt2Vf6D1Tlqz8dOjz4GhzSd4GhuAG8SsMfXpfpI4xNV7rOsedXJkfP">saying</a>: Your kids don’t really need so many dolls, do they?</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Democrats’ breakup with economists</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Democrats didn’t have an outsider populist takeover of the party that chucked out their old elites. Rather, their own party elites fell out of love with economists — because they concluded that the economists’ consensus had failed both substantively and politically, and arguably brought Trump to power in the first place.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">According to many leftists and progressives, the failures were obvious. Unfettered free trade had <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/407742/trumps-tariffs-are-democrats-golden-opportunity-are-they-botching-it">despoiled the heartland</a>. Inequality got out of control as the ultra-rich amassed more of the gains from growth and big corporations exercised more and more power over American life. Millions of Americans faced foreclosures and unemployment, while the crooked bankers who got us in the mess got off scot free. The rot of neoliberalism had been building for years, the Great Recession finally exposed it for all to see — and it was the economists (specifically, a particular clique of well-connected elite economists) who led us there.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Critiques like these gained steam among progressive activists and thinkers in the late Obama years. When the enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders’s campaigns seemed to show there was populist energy behind this critique, Democratic elites <a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/7/11/12139852/the-democratic-party-left-bernie-sanders">tried to accommodate it</a>. Still, we shouldn’t be so quick to conclude that the general public thought the economy of the late 2010s was a hellscape. Indeed, just before the beginning of the pandemic, <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1609/consumer-views-economy.aspx">Gallup’s Economic Confidence Index</a> hit a 20-year high, even though most of the problems above persisted.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Economists have been skeptical of the claim that economists screwed up everything. But some — for instance, Berkeley economist <a href="https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/economists-and-the-financial-crisis-by-j--bradford-delong-2018-11">Brad DeLong</a> — have argued that Obama’s team did screw up one big thing: the recovery from the Great Recession. Per this argument, policymakers were too worried about the nonexistent problem of inflation and deficits, failed to stimulate the economy sufficiently, and the resulting unsatisfactory recovery left voters unhappy. (But it’s questionable whether voter anger at Obama spurred Trump’s win specifically; Obama <a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-highest-popularity-in-2-years-230897">was quite popular</a> in 2016.)&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Other changes may have played a role. The internet and social media were part of a broader decline in gatekeeping that meant economists’ knowledge was no longer exclusive. A smart person online can now obtain data and crunch numbers on their own. Furman told me that, during the Clinton administration, staff economists reviewed new economic research papers and brought some to the communications team; under Obama, it was just as likely that the comms team “would see someone tweeting a paper and come to us about it.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">With the rise of social media came a <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/378644/progressives-left-backlash-retreat-kamala-harris-pivot-center">leftward shift</a> in how Democrats thought about a host of issues. In the age of virality, analyses offering moral clarity and obvious villains tended to win out. Progressives increasingly tended to scoff at the warnings and concerns of economists, believing they were too disposed to excuse an unjust status quo. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A new <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/377170/kamala-harris-economic-policy-new-progressive-economics">counter-establishment</a> that relied far more on elite lawyers and the nonprofit world was formed and <a href="https://prospect.org/2023/03/28/2023-03-28-what-comes-after-neoliberalism/">became highly influential</a> in the Biden administration. There were, of course, economists among Biden’s appointees, such as Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen — but in practice, she was <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/26/janet-yellen-biden-debt-ceiling-00033398">somewhat marginalized</a>. Policy was often driven by White House advisers and independent agency chiefs, some of whom were bold progressives and some of whom were focused on national security or politics.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Biden himself was uninterested in academic policy debates, particularly on economics. A former Biden administration official <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/377170/kamala-harris-economic-policy-new-progressive-economics#:~:text=Progressives%E2%80%99%20appointment%20success,with%20each%20other.">told me last year</a> that it was “very, very rare” for Biden to be sent a decision memo asking him to choose between different courses of action; the norm was for advisers to reach consensus and send up a “joint recommendation memo” for his signature.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">As Biden was taking office, he had planned on a $1.3 trillion stimulus, but this was increased to almost $2 trillion — reportedly because Senate Democrats’ <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy/385932/biden-inflation-record-worse-unpopular-mistakes#:~:text=The%20fullest%20accounting%20of%20it%20I%E2%80%99ve%20read%20was%20in%20Franklin%20Foer%E2%80%99s%20book%2C%20The%20Last%20Politician%2C%20which%20lays%20out%20the%20following%20sequence%20of%20events%3A">policy wish list</a> added up that high. Economists like Summers and Furman, now on the outside, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/04/larry-summers-biden-covid-stimulus/">warned</a> that that was far too big and risked spiking inflation. But they were ignored, as Democrats sought to avoid what they viewed as Obama’s mistake of doing too little stimulus.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">At this point, mainstream economists were viewed as the boys who cried wolf on inflation, but this time, the wolf was coming. (To be clear, inflation was primarily brought about by global circumstances and not Biden’s stimulus, but his administration was <a href="https://www.vox.com/policy/385932/biden-inflation-record-worse-unpopular-mistakes">slow to recognize</a> just how serious the problem would be, and <a href="https://www.vox.com/23036340/biden-american-rescue-plan-inflation">made it somewhat worse</a>.)</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Other important policies also seemed to be set without much regard to economic thinking or analysis. Democrats’ childcare proposal — at one point, a key part of Biden’s legislative agenda — had <a href="https://www.vox.com/22744837/house-senate-democrats-build-back-better-child-care">deep design problems</a> that only got attention after the commentator Matt Bruenig made some <a href="https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2021/10/20/democratic-child-care-plan-will-spike-prices-for-the-middle-class-by-13000/">basic economics-informed critiques</a>. On climate policy, Furman said, the Biden team “really ignored the economists who had the modeling capability to tell them how to maximize emissions reduction per dollar spent.” Advocates <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/09/us/politics/biden-border-immigration.html">pushed border policies</a> that paid little heed to the incentives they were giving people to come.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Economists are in the policy wilderness. Will they stay there?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">To voters, the purported neoliberal hellscape of the 2010s pales in comparison to the post-neoliberal hellscape of the 2020s. <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1609/consumer-views-economy.aspx">Polls show</a> Americans have positively loathed the state of the economy for the past four years. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But this has not spurred either party to re-embrace economists with open arms.&nbsp;And in part, that’s because economists aren’t really sure about how to solve the US economy’s 2025 problems — or aren’t sure what the problems even are.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Tyler Cowen, an economist at George Mason University, speculated that we might be entering a period of “modest stagflation,” in which inflation and unemployment increase simultaneously. In that situation, he told me, “there is no economic consensus about what to do.” Lowering interest rates could worsen inflation, and raising them could cause a recession. “You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Economist Brad DeLong of Berkeley told me that he thought Biden’s economic record was actually rather good in a very difficult situation, since it avoided a prolonged recession or a slow recovery, and inflation was generally countered with wage growth. “The problem is that voters really do not agree,” he said. “The pollsters tell me people would be happier if unemployment had been higher and real incomes had been lower. They’re feeling betrayed by the price level. So we scratch our heads and say, ‘Is money illusion a real source of utility?’”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There is, however, some economist consensus about what <em>not</em> to do about high prices — namely, price controls, which economists typically feel will have counterproductive or undesirable consequences. Many would prefer something more akin to the “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/opinion/abundance-democrats-future.html">abundance agenda</a>,” which is focused on increasing the supply of housing, clean energy, and other things the economy needs, often by trying to reduce procedural or legal roadblocks.&nbsp; </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Abundance has won a dedicated following among center-left wonks and <a href="https://x.com/CAgovernor/status/1939889648744206429">certain politicians</a>, but so far, it has been less potent as an electoral message than price controls and promises for cheaper stuff — promises that may be impossible to fulfill. “People want the price level to go back to what it used to be, which is not possible without a massive recession which would not be desirable,” Furman said.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Economists are useful to political elites when it’s believed they know how to solve major problems of the day. But when it comes to high prices, Mankiw said, “I don’t think there’s any easy solution to these problems. And people do not want to hear, ‘I know you’re not happy, but we have no solutions for you.’”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><em>This series was supported by a grant from Arnold Ventures. Vox had full discretion over the content of this reporting</em>.</p>
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				<name>Andrew Prokop</name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Is MAGA falling apart?]]></title>
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			<updated>2025-12-09T18:34:56-05:00</updated>
			<published>2025-12-10T07:00:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[It’s been a rocky month for the GOP after losing big in last month’s elections, and the party knows it. Members of Congress are heading for the exit; the vibe couldn&#8217;t be further from Trump’s exultant return to power in January. To understand what’s going on — and what it portends for the future of [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s been a rocky month for the GOP after losing big in last month’s elections, and the party knows it. Members of Congress are heading for the exit; the vibe couldn&#8217;t be further from Trump’s exultant return to power in January.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">To understand what’s going on — and what it portends for the future of the right — I spoke with my colleague Andrew Prokop for Vox’s daily newsletter, Today, Explained. Our conversation, edited for length and clarity, is below, and you can sign up for the newsletter <a href="https://www.vox.com/pages/today-explained-newsletter-signup">here</a> for more conversations like this.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>Why does it feel like the right is in disarray right now?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In 2024, there was a lot of talk about the vibes shifting in favor of the right. There was a sense that public opinion was moving in their direction, history was on their side, elites had accepted they were right on some major questions. Nearly a year into the second Trump administration, the vibes appear to have shifted again. Various factions of the right are increasingly discussing and debating this question of, <em>What has gone wrong?</em> How did they go from MAGA triumphant to this increasing suspicion that things aren’t actually going well for them anymore?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>How has that manifested?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The most interesting example is in the MAGA influencer sphere. Back in Trump’s first term, the way to get maximum virality and engagement from a right-wing audience was loyalty: Just back Donald Trump in whatever he did. We are increasingly seeing that it doesn’t quite work like that anymore in 2025.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There’s not a full break from Trump, but we’re seeing increasing criticism on certain issues where these social media influencers and media personalities are very attuned to what their audience is thinking. There is this increasing move toward debate and criticism about certain things in Trump’s second term that might not be going very well. And there are signs in Congress of congressional Republicans being a bit less likely to go along with what Trump wants.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This can be exaggerated a little bit, but we have seen some instances of defiance, like the vote to release the Epstein Files. The debate in the larger right-wing ecosystem is about what their party should actually stand for.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>What’s responsible for Trump’s loss of momentum?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Part of this is a familiar, normal story about the president winning and being term-limited. The recent election results in November put a scare into Republicans, and hammered home the message that, actually, the polls are correct. Trump is unpopular. The public doesn’t like what he’s doing. And the GOP is on track for a difficult midterms.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">I also think that a lot of the vibe shift on the right is about ways in which the broader issue environment has changed, in part because Trump was so successful. For instance, in Trump’s first term, his presidency was constantly under siege, beset by investigations and impeachment. That actually served as a unifying force on the right. But now those threats are gone. Trump won convincingly in 2024. He shut down the investigations into him and so he doesn&#8217;t really have that to fall back on anymore.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-left"><blockquote><p>“I also think that a lot of the vibe shift on the right is about ways in which the broader issue environment has changed, in part because Trump was so successful.”</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The other big threat that has united the right, especially in recent years, was the hatred and fear of “wokeness.” The MAGA 2.0 coalition could disagree on a lot of things, but they all came together in the belief that they hated wokeness. And again, this is a case where Trump is a victim of his own success: There has been this vibe shift in which the right’s monster of wokeness appears to have been slain and the culture appears to have moved on. The people who were once united against it are now no longer focused on it as a big threat anymore, and are freed up to focus on what they disagree on.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>Is this a temporary thing, or the start of a longer spiral for Trump?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There’s always a push and pull with this stuff. A lot of times in the second term, once reelection concerns are gone, presidents feel more free to try to please their base, to do things that maybe they would have shied away from early on. I do expect Trump to continue to try to push the limits of what&#8217;s legal or acceptable.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">We’ve seen signs that he’s going to that: Stephen Miller thinks the <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-logoff-newsletter-trump/471186/trump-immigration-crackdown-dc-shooting-19-countries-afghanistan">immigration crackdown</a> should be even harsher than it already is. If he remains empowered in the administration, we should expect it to get harsher. We should expect these constant attempts to implement policy from the executive branch. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The right-wing base hasn’t broken with Trump — they’re not against him. They’re just a little burned out or disappointed that they haven’t gotten everything they dreamed of. He might try to deliver them more wins to keep them engaged and to try to get them to turn out to vote in the midterms.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>JD Vance is arguably Trump’s heir apparent. What role does he play in all of this?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">He has his wagon hitched to Trump, and that’s a tough spot: a vice president trying to succeed a president who is increasingly being viewed as somewhat of a disappointment. He would have to make the case about what he would do differently; and, in theory, there are ways he can do that, but there’s a lot of pressure not to break from the president in any way.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Having said that, loyalty and affection toward Trump among the larger Republican electorate is still quite strong, so it’s a tremendous advantage for Vance if he does end up being Trump’s anointed successor. It’s going to be very hard to dislodge him unless there’s some sort of even further break from Trump, akin to George W. Bush’s popularity collapse in his second term. Unless that happens, Vance is still in a pretty good place.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none"><strong>Anything else you’re keeping an eye on here?</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">I do think it’s good to distinguish between Trump’s increasing unpopularity among the general public — which is probably mainly because of the economy — and the increasing disillusionment and dissatisfaction among elements of the highly engaged right-wing Republican coalition, because I think they stem from different sources. The particular issues, and the way this plays out among the right-wing coalition, are very different from what we might be seeing in the general public’s backlash against Trump.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[The 3 layers of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal]]></title>
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			<updated>2025-11-18T16:01:43-05:00</updated>
			<published>2025-11-18T15:55:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Anticipation is rising for the potential release of the “Epstein files.”&#160; The House of Representatives overwhelmingly voted to approve the release of Justice Department case files related to the accused sex trafficker Tuesday, something even President Donald Trump belatedly said he supports (after months of opposing it). But will the files corroborate any of the [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



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<li>The accusations that Epstein personally preyed on many underage girls and young women are very well documented.<br></li>



<li>The accusations that Epstein supplied victims to prominent men are more disputed; the government never charged this, and it isn’t clear why.<br></li>



<li>More elaborate theories about blackmail, a client list, intelligence agencies, and murdered are purely speculative and lack hard evidence.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Anticipation is rising for the potential release of the “Epstein files.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The House of Representatives <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5611216-house-epstein-files-bill-vote/">overwhelmingly voted</a> to approve the release of Justice Department case files related to the accused sex trafficker Tuesday, something even President Donald Trump belatedly said he supports (after months of opposing it).</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But will the files corroborate any of the frenzied speculation about what exactly Jeffrey Epstein may have been up to and which powerful people might be implicated?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Or, will they simply feed further conspiracy theories without managing to prove anything?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">To get a sense of what we might — and probably won’t — learn, it’s worth breaking down the various bits of the Epstein scandal into three different categories.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">First, there’s what we know for sure about the scandal: Epstein recruited a vast number of young women and underage teenage girls and tried to convince or coerce them into sex acts.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Second, we enter the more contested realm of allegations. Most importantly: Did Epstein suggest or coerce girls to have sex with the many prominent friends who frequently socialized with him at his New York and Florida mansions and his private island? And, if so, which friends?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Third, there are even murkier and more speculative theories. Was Epstein taping or blackmailing these prominent men? Was he working on behalf of US or foreign intelligence agencies? Was his supposed suicide in fact a murder? </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Many on the internet think these sound plausible and can point to various tidbits of information they argue point in these directions. But they remain essentially unsubstantiated — and likely always will.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The accusations that Epstein personally preyed on a vast number of victims are very well documented and corroborated</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In court filings, government documents, and journalistic accounts, there is voluminous and well-documented evidence of Epstein’s modus operandi for preying on teen girls and young women between the mid-1990s and the mid-2000s.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Typically, Epstein would have his companion Ghislaine Maxwell or another of his female associates <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell.html">scout for or recruit</a> prospective victims. In New York, many were aspiring artists and models. In Florida, many were recruited from spas (including Mar-a-Lago), came from disadvantaged backgrounds, or were high school students.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">They’d be invited to visit one of Epstein’s opulent homes, at which point he’d make a pass or assault them. Those victims recruited from spas would typically be brought in to give Epstein a massage, during which he’d pressure them for sexual acts. Afterward, he’d pay them money and ask them to come back or offer them money to go recruit others. Many of these victims were underage — some as young as 14 — so any sexual conduct with them was statutory rape.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Afterward, some of these girls or young women would leave and never return, but Epstein paid others to stick around. (Virginia Roberts Giuffre, Epstein’s most prominent public accuser, said he gave her money to rent an apartment on the condition she be available to him at all times.) Long before Epstein was accused of criminal activity, many who encountered him were struck by how many young women or girls appeared to constantly be in his presence. In 2002, Donald Trump <a href="https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/">told a reporter</a> that Epstein was a “terrific guy” who “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Epstein’s indictment in 2006 by local authorities brought this to a halt and, soon, sparked a federal investigation into him for sex trafficking. However, his top-shelf lawyers managed to craft what was later derided as a sweetheart plea deal; he pleaded guilty to two state charges and spent a year in prison.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">After his release from prison in 2009, Epstein <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/katie-couric-woody-allen-jeffrey-epsteins-society-friends-close-ranks/">was re-embraced</a> by many of his influential friends, though he faced a flurry of lawsuits from his victims. Finally, in 2018, a searing series of reports on his case revived public outrage, spurring a new investigation and eventual indictment from federal prosecutors in New York. Epstein was arrested for much more serious charges in July 2019, but he never faced trial, because he was found dead in his cell the following month.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Justice Department and FBI <a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline">have said</a> that “Epstein harmed over one thousand victims.”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">But the government never alleged Epstein trafficked girls to <em>other</em> prominent men. Why not?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">While a vast number of women have accused Epstein of abusing them during that mid-1990s to mid-2000s period, a smaller number have made a different allegation: Epstein trafficked them to other men, and specifically, to his prominent friends. (Epstein was fabulously rich and cultivated many famous friends in the worlds of politics, academia, and tech; many of these friends often visited his mansions or his private island.)</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Nailing down the exact number of women who say this happened to them is challenging, as some have made the claim as unnamed “Jane Does” in various lawsuits. But the most detailed and specific public accusations of trafficking have come from one accuser in particular: Virginia Roberts Giuffre.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Giuffre sued Epstein as a “Jane Doe” in 2009, but in 2011, after a British reporter tracked her down, she <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361039/Prince-Andrew-girl-17-sex-offender-friend-flew-Britain-meet-him.html?ito=feeds-newsxml">began speaking publicly</a> about it. She said that, while underage, she was recruited by Maxwell from Mar-a-Lago’s spa to be a masseuse for Epstein and then groomed to have sex with him and his influential friends in exchange for money, which she did for a few years. &#8220;I was one of the very few he trusted as &#8216;special&#8217; and chosen to &#8216;entertain&#8217; his friends,” she <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361039/Prince-Andrew-girl-17-sex-offender-friend-flew-Britain-meet-him.html?ito=feeds-newsxml">said in 2011</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And, over the course of the next few years, Giuffre named names, <a href="https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2014/12/woman-who-sued-convicted-billionaire-over-sex-abuse-levels-claims-at-his-friends-200495">most notably</a> the UK’s Prince Andrew (Giuffre provided reporters with an instantly infamous <a href="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/27/article-1361039-0D61D3CD000005DC-596_634x591.jpg">photograph</a> of her, the <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr7m4yjkp74o">now-former</a> prince, and Maxwell together). In depositions or court proceedings, she <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/new-details-in-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-documents?srsltid=AfmBOopAi0R0rPL7jRxE44MLThCkZtMUyHelDYjxHb8g2ODIN4W2yaOP">also said</a> she was told to have sex with, among others, law professor and attorney Alan Dershowitz, French modeling agent <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/modeling-agent-jean-luc-brunel-charged-rape-minor-jeffrey-epstein-n1251804">Jean-Luc Brunel</a>, former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, and former Senate Minority Leader George Mitchell. (But Giuffre was consistent that she was never trafficked to the two Epstein friends most often speculated about: Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.)</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The men Giuffre accused denied her claims. Dershowitz, in particular, fought a years-long legal battle that ended in a settlement where Giuffre <a href="https://davidlat.substack.com/p/virginia-giuffre-alan-dershowitz">said</a> she “may have made a mistake” in identifying him. Others <a href="https://unherd.com/2025/10/should-we-believe-virginia-giuffre/?edition=us">pointed out</a> inconsistencies and changes in Giuffre’s story over the years. She <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/virginia-giuffre-one-jeffrey-epsteins-prominent-abuse-survivors-dies-s-rcna203027">died by suicide</a> this April.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Prosecutors have never accused Epstein of offering underage girls to other men and have never charged any other men in his crimes. But, at some point, investigators must have tried to assess these claims.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Many suspect that, in not bringing charges, prosecutors were simply covering up for the powerful. But there are a range of other possibilities, too. Did they find Giuffre credible and manage to corroborate her claims or not? Did they face inherent evidentiary problems about proving what exactly certain men did inside certain massage rooms on certain dates more than a decade ago and whether these men actually knew certain girls were underage? Did prosecutors run up against statutes of limitations? Did Epstein’s death make a broader case impossible, because he could no longer be used as a witness?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Documents in the Epstein files could conceivably clear up what prosecutors and investigators actually concluded and give us a clearer idea of why they never charged a broader conspiracy.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The hazier, wilder theories: a “list,” blackmail, tapes, intelligence agencies, murder</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Beyond the realm of accusations actually made by people, there are the more inventive, elaborate, and purely speculative theories that are popular on the internet. These include:</p>

<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>Did Epstein have a <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/1/4/24025802/jeffrey-epstein-list-unsealed-documents-bill-clinton-donald-trump">list</a> of “clients” who paid him to partake in his underage sex ring?</li>



<li>Alternatively, was Epstein <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-maria-farmer-says-his-house-under-constant-tv-surveillance/">taping</a> prominent men having sex with underage girls so he could blackmail those men?</li>



<li>Were Epstein’s activities undertaken by, or financed by, <a href="https://unherd.com/2025/09/release-the-cias-epstein-files/">intelligence agencies</a>, domestic or foreign?</li>



<li>Was Epstein murdered in prison to prevent his case from going to trial — and to prevent him flipping on other powerful people?</li>
</ul>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In arguing that one or several of these may have happened, internet theorists typically point to various tidbits of Epstein lore or hearsay claims. Some of these, like the viral claim that an Epstein prosecutor was told to lay off him because he “belonged to intelligence,” <a href="https://www.skeptic.com/article/did-jeffrey-epstein-belong-to-intelligence/">appear dubious</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Federal officials have issued firm denials of several of the leading theories. A Justice Department and FBI memo <a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline">released in July</a> reiterated the conclusion that Epstein died by suicide and said a systematic review of this case found:</p>

<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>No “client list.”</li>



<li>No “credible evidence that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions.”</li>



<li>No “evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.”&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That last point is a bit vague, though — whether evidence is sufficient to predicate an investigation can be in the eye of the beholder. The Epstein files will undoubtedly include many tips, leads, and claims that raise eyebrows, even if investigators deemed them not to be useful for a larger case.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That’s why, if the files are released, they’ll likely satisfy no one and only spur further speculation and theories. Almost surely, they won’t be sufficient to prove any of the deeper conspiracies people suspect are true — but they will inevitably include a lot of hearsay. And the internet will run wild with it.</p>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[On Wednesday, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee sent the political world into a frenzy by releasing two damning-looking emails Jeffrey Epstein had sent about Donald Trump. The committee’s Republicans then followed up by releasing thousands more Epstein emails and documents, containing embarrassing revelations about various other public figures. But the GOP and the White [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>Democrats released an email in which Jeffrey Epstein said Donald Trump had spent hours with one of his victims at his house.</li>



<li>However, the victim in question was Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who has said repeatedly that Trump was not involved in Epstein’s abuse of her.</li>



<li>Understanding the timeline of Trump and Epstein’s relationship — they were close from the 1990s until about 2004, when they fell out over a property dispute — is important to assessing new revelations.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">On Wednesday, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee sent the political world into a frenzy by releasing two damning-looking emails Jeffrey Epstein had sent about Donald Trump.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The committee’s Republicans then followed up by <a href="https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-additional-epstein-estate-documents/">releasing thousands more Epstein emails and documents</a>, containing embarrassing revelations about various other public figures. But the GOP and the White House also pushed back, arguing that the revelations about Trump were less than met the eye.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">All of this is just an appetizer for the push for public disclosure of the “Epstein files” held by the Justice Department. A months-long effort to get a majority of the House to sign a petition that would force a vote on the matter finally won its 218th signature Wednesday. A House vote on the Epstein files is <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/house-epstein-files-vote-00647392">now expected in December</a>, and if it passes, the matter will advance to the Senate.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">President Trump seems highly worried about this possibility. This week, he tried to strong-arm some Republican House members into dropping their signatures from the petition, including by <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-vote-boebert.html">having officials summon</a> Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) to the Situation Room.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">We don’t know what, if anything, Trump is trying to prevent from getting out through the DOJ’s Epstein files. But as we await their potential release, it’s worth taking a closer look at the newly-released Epstein emails about Trump, to assess what they actually show. Doing this requires some decoding.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">“That dog that hasn’t barked is trump”</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The email that got the most attention is from Epstein to his companion and co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. Dated April 2, 2011, it says (typos included):</p>

<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow">
<p class="has-text-align-none"><em>I want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump.. virignia&nbsp; spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned.&nbsp; &nbsp; police chief. etc. &nbsp; &nbsp; im 75 % there</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p class="has-text-align-none">When House Democrats first released the email, they redacted the name Virginia and replaced it with “VICTIM.” And the release was taken on social media as a bombshell. It appeared to show, well, Epstein saying Trump had spent hours at his house with a victim. And what explanation could there be for that other than a sexual one?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet Republicans soon cried foul, revealing the redacted name was Virginia — a reference to Virginia Roberts Giuffre, Epstein’s most prominent public accuser, who died earlier this year.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This changed the email’s meaning significantly because, in years of depositions, litigation, and a memoir published posthumously earlier this year, Giuffre was consistent that Trump was never a participant in Epstein’s sex crimes involving her. She <a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/07/30/virginia-giuffre-trump-epstein-maxwell">accused</a> Epstein of trafficking her to other prominent men — but said repeatedly that those men did not include Trump. Unless she was lying, this email then does not mean that Trump abused an Epstein victim.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So what could Epstein have meant in the email?</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Some important context here is that, according to reporting by Epstein correspondent (and pal) Michael Wolff, Epstein <a href="https://x.com/Acyn/status/1951001757691289972">had wondered</a> whether Trump played some part in bringing about his legal woes due to a falling-out they’d had. The emails appear to nod to this idea.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The belief, floated by House Speaker Mike Johnson among others, that Trump helped bring Epstein down by informing the authorities, has been much mocked and lacks any corroboration. However, Wolff did claim that Epstein himself thought this might have been true, though Epstein purportedly believed Trump was motivated by personal pique over a property auction rather than a heroic desire to save abused women.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump and Epstein were close pals throughout much of the 1990s and early 2000s — a time when they were frequently photographed together at parties in New York and Florida. This time encompasses Trump’s infamous “<a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/420340/jeffrey-epstein-trump-friends-birthday-book-secret">birthday book</a>” message to Epstein, and Trump’s similarly infamous quote to a reporter that Epstein was a “terrific guy” who “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But in 2004, this friendship came to an end — <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html">reportedly because</a> Trump and Epstein had a bidding war against each other over the same Florida mansion, and things got quite bitter.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Shortly after the auction’s conclusion, the Palm Beach police received a tip that young women had been seen at Epstein’s home, according to a later deposition by the department’s police chief.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The first major law enforcement investigation into Epstein didn’t kick off <a href="https://apnews.com/article/epstein-maxwell-timeline-b9f15710fabb72e8581c71e94acf513e">until the following year</a>, in 2005, when a 14-year-old girl and her parents went to the Palm Beach police, accusing Epstein of molesting her during a massage. But — <a href="https://x.com/Acyn/status/1951001757691289972">according to Wolff</a> — Epstein had privately wondered whether it was Trump who was responsible for the initial tip.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Epstein resolved that initial investigation with what was later called a sweetheart plea deal, but his victims soon began suing him civilly. These lawsuits were at first filed from “Jane Does,” but in 2011, one of them — Virginia Roberts Giuffre — came forward to put her name to her accusations, becoming Epstein’s most prominent accuser.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Shortly after that, in 2011, Epstein sent that newly-released email to Maxwell, which I’ll quote again:</p>

<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow">
<p class="has-text-align-none"><em>I want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump.. virignia&nbsp; spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned.&nbsp; &nbsp; police chief. etc. &nbsp; &nbsp; im 75 % there</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The email may be an expression of Epstein’s suspicion that Trump is behind his legal woes. He’s asking, why hasn’t Trump’s name been mentioned in the investigation and lawsuits? He’s saying Giuffre, his lead public accuser, had spent time with Trump, so perhaps he was behind her coming forward. And he’s perhaps alluding to how the “police chief” got his tip, perhaps saying he’s “75% there” toward thinking it was Trump.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">“Of course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop”</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A second email that is being treated as damning was sent by Epstein to Wolff on January 31, 2019. It reads:</p>

<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow">
<p class="has-text-align-none"><em>(REDACTED) worked at mara lago. . she was the one that accused prince andrew. . trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever. . of course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop&nbsp;</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Epstein’s claim that “of course” Trump “knew about the girls” has gotten a great deal of attention, but it should also be noted that the sentence concludes “as he asked ghislaine to stop.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This likely refers to the reports that Epstein and Maxwell were recruiting girls from the Mar-a-Lago spa to become his “masseuses” — Giuffre, for one, had worked there. Trump spoke about this earlier this year when <a href="https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1950256617301430443">he claimed</a> Epstein had “taken” people from his spa, and said he intervened to stop that.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Indeed, as far as back as 2007, an anonymous source <a href="https://pagesix.com/2007/10/15/sex-case-victims-lining-up/">told Page Six</a>, about Epstein: “He would use the spa to try to procure girls. But one of them, a masseuse about 18 years old, he tried to get her to do things…Her father found out about it and went absolutely ape-[bleep]. Epstein’s not allowed back.” (The reader may decide whether that anonymous source <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-history-of-lying-from-john-barron-to-realdonaldtrump">sounds like John Barron</a>.)</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So on one hand, Epstein’s statement sounds damning: Trump knew about the girls! On the other hand, what Epstein then says is that Trump asked Maxwell “to stop” — presumably, to stop recruiting girls from Mar-a-Lago.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That email, then, also doesn’t really corroborate the idea that Trump was a participant in Epstein’s sex crimes — though in assessing its candor, we should keep in mind that Epstein is writing to a journalist, not a trusted associate like Maxwell.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">It’s important to get the timeline straight</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In the frenzy of interest over the newly-released Epstein emails, decontextualized tidbits have been rocketed across social media and been treated as damning. But there have also been a lot of misinterpretations and misreadings. If the DOJ’s Epstein files ever do get released, that will likely continue.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In my view, the most helpful thing to keep in mind when assessing the import of new information about the Trump/Epstein relationship, is that the relationship had two phases:</p>

<ol class="wp-block-list">
<li>From the 1990s to about 2004, Trump and Epstein were friends, frequently seen together, exchanging bawdy messages, etc.</li>



<li>After 2004, they had a falling out, reportedly over that mansion auction; the reporting has been quite consistent that this was a bitter falling-out and their relationship did not continue after that.</li>
</ol>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Naturally, Trump’s defenders are preferring to focus on the second phase. Indeed, after this week’s release of tens of thousands of Epstein’s emails, many claimed there was surprisingly little about Trump. But those emails were from the 2010s.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s more likely that the things Trump’s most worried about in the Epstein files would be about the earlier period, when Trump and Epstein really were close — things like Trump’s <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/see-epsteins-full-birthday-book-with-alleged-personal-messages-from-trump-clinton-and-others">birthday book message</a> to Epstein: “A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”</p>
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