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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Donald Trump’s pivot to blasphemy]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[To celebrate the second Sunday of Easter, President Donald Trump appears to have decided that blasphemy might be the best option. Late Sunday evening, Trump posted a wordy attack of Pope Leo XIV on Truth Social, saying the first American-born leader of the Roman Catholic Church was “WEAK on Crime, and terrible for Foreign Policy.” [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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	President Donald Trump, first lady Melania Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and second lady Usha Vance attend the National Prayer Service at the Washington National Cathedral in Washington, DC, on January 21, 2025. | Charly Triballeau/AFP via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">To celebrate the second Sunday of Easter, President Donald Trump appears to have decided that blasphemy might be the best option.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Late Sunday evening, Trump posted a <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116394704213456431">wordy attack of Pope Leo XIV </a>on Truth Social, saying the first American-born leader of the Roman Catholic Church was “WEAK on Crime, and terrible for Foreign Policy.” Leo, by criticizing the joint US-Israeli war on Iran, is apparently “catering to the Radical Left,” “hurting the Catholic Church,” and encouraging Iran to develop nuclear weapons. “I am not a fan of Pope Leo,” Trump later told reporters.&nbsp;</p>

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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



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<li>President Donald Trump on Sunday escalated preexisting tensions between the Vatican and his government by criticizing Pope Leo XIV, calling him “weak” and in the service of the “Radical Left” for criticizing the US-Israeli war on Iran.</li>



<li>It was the most direct attack yet he’s made on the pontiff, and sparked criticism from Catholics, including Republicans who have supported Trump before.</li>



<li>That backlash only grew among other evangelical Christians and religious conservatives when Trump posted an AI-generated image casting himself as Jesus Christ. He deleted that image on Monday.</li>



<li>It’s an unforced move that is causing new consternation among the religious right.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s his most aggressive and direct attack yet on the Vicar of Christ, who has been uncharacteristically vocal this year in his criticism of militaristic foreign policy, including making a direct appeal to the president to end the conflict in Iran and promote peace and respect for human life. The pope indicated he would not back down, telling reporters he had <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-not-big-fan-weak-terrible-pope-leo-rcna331461">“no fear” of the White House</a>. And he threw in a little barb as well, calling the Truth Social posts “ironic”: “The name of the site itself. Say no more.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Picking a fight with the spiritual leader for <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/04/10-facts-about-us-catholics/">more than 50 million Americans</a> was a risky move, if <a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-pope-south-carolina-219462">not unprecedented</a> for Trump, and he faced immediate pushback from some otherwise right-leaning Catholics.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But somehow, things only got worse from there: Trump followed up with an AI-generated image depicting him as Jesus Christ healing the sick, as he’s flanked by symbols of America and both military and spiked figures floating like angels behind him.&nbsp;</p>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-dnt="true"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump posts, then deletes AI image of himself as Christ-like figure, sparking blasphemy accusations <a href="https://t.co/DtRVzlAWyH">https://t.co/DtRVzlAWyH</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ldyfd18f1N">pic.twitter.com/Ldyfd18f1N</a></p>&mdash; New York Post (@nypost) <a href="https://twitter.com/nypost/status/2043723055151624492?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2026</a></blockquote>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">It was that second sacrilege that expanded the blowback into a full-on political crisis: This time not only from Catholics, but from evangelicals and other denominations —&nbsp;including many who are typically aligned with Trump.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I don’t know if the President thought he was being funny or if he is under the influence of some substance or what possible explanation he could have for this OUTRAGEOUS blasphemy,” the evangelical writer Megan Basham posted. “But he needs to take this down immediately and ask for forgiveness from the American people and then from God.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“God shall not be mocked,” Riley Gaines, the former competitive swimmer and prominent conservative activist, posted.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“This is gross blasphemy. Faith is not a prop,” the young Christian conservative Brilyn Hollyhand said in a video condemning Trump’s post.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“It’s more than blasphemy. It’s an Antichrist spirit,” said former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a vocal Christian critic of Israel and Trump’s second term.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Trump is my President; Jesus is my Lord,” Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost <a href="https://x.com/DaveYostOH/status/2043696072443216107?s=20">posted</a>. “I am not confused about which is which, and hope this image is removed.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">By Monday afternoon, Trump had deleted the post, a rare climbdown, while claiming he didn’t understand what he had shared. &#8220;<a href="https://x.com/josh_wingrove/status/2043731935822819788?s=20">I thought it was me as a doctor</a>,” he said, according to Bloomberg’s Josh Wingrove.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s hardly news that Trump’s personal behavior doesn’t exactly line up with Ten Commandments, but critics have pointed out this hypocrisy for well over a decade with little apparent impact on his conservative religious support.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The big question then is: Why is this time different?</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none"><strong>The religious backlash to Trump has been building for months</strong></h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump’s latest religious post set off a firestorm, but the kindling has been catching over the last few months.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Christians in the United States <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/484125/israel-maga-iran-religious-catholic-evangelical-zionism-dispensationalism-vatican-anti-semitism-tucker-huckabee-ted-cruz">have been divided</a> by the joint US-Israeli war on Iran: Some anti-Israel MAGA Catholics were already turning on Trump, much to his fury; conservative evangelicals and Christian Zionist nondenominational believers have already been chafing against American Catholics on the right; and policy criticisms of Trump’s foreign policy and immigration agenda from the Vatican and American bishops were putting right-leaning American Catholics in an untenable position.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Now, it looks like Trump is seriously testing just how much it would take for religious conservatives to break with his movement. And he’s taking every shot he can.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Start with Pope Leo. Right before Trump’s latest post, Catholics were already dealing with a <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/485418/pentagon-iran-trump-vatican-threaten-pope-leo-avignon-maga">shocking series of reports</a> about a meeting between Pentagon officials and the Vatican’s top diplomat to the US back in January, in which one Trump aide issued what was reportedly interpreted by some church officials as a threat over the pope’s criticism of military operations.&nbsp;Though the tone and content of this meeting is contested by both the Pentagon and the Vatican, the effect of these reports was the same: the growing sense that the pope and the president are at odds.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Perhaps for that reason, the response to Trump personally attacking Leo was especially strong compared to prior incidents, like when <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/catholics-criticize-trump-posts-ai-generated-image-depicting-pope-rcna204710">he posted an image of himself as pope</a> after Pope Francis died. The latest episode raised the specter of the president focusing his frustrations over the war on the church writ large, a problem that could worsen if the conflict continues to spiral and his approval ratings worsen.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Bishop Robert Barron, a member of Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission who is popular with traditionalist Catholics and the religious right, called his statements “entirely inappropriate and disrespectful,” and urged “that serious Catholics within the Trump administration —&nbsp;Secretary Rubio, Vice President Vance, Ambassador Brian Burch, and others —&nbsp;might meet with Vatican officials so that a real dialogue can take place.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Other prominent American Catholics also<a href="https://x.com/jackmjenkins/status/2043532155234468052?s=20"> weighed in</a>: The head of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops said he was “disheartened” that Trump would attack Leo, and reminded him that the pope is not a politician, but “the Vicar of Christ who speaks from the truth of the Gospel and for the care of souls.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Already, there are signs of a clear cleavage opening up between most American Catholics and Trump, particularly over the Iran war. Trump’s net approval is now <a href="https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/2043693020541841706?s=20">negative</a> with them, after exit polls reported that he won this religious part of the electorate by nearly 20 points during the 2024 election. The most recent temperature checks of American Catholics on Iran are also negative: they disapprove of the Iran war by 10 points, and disapprove of Trump’s handling of it by a margin of 20 points, per <a href="https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2026/03/fox_march-20-23-2026_national_cross-tabs_march-25-release-1.pdf">a March Fox News poll</a>.</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>“Trump has already lost some support from the Catholic right, which leans isolationist, over his decision to go to war with Iran.”</p><cite>Peter Laffin, Washington Examiner senior editor</cite></blockquote></figure>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Trump has already lost some support from the Catholic right, which leans isolationist, over his decision to go to war with Iran,” Washington Examiner senior editor Peter Laffin, a Catholic writer, told me. “If I were a Republican candidate heading into 2026, I’d be more concerned with how his attacks on Pope Leo are playing among the Hispanic Catholics who swung heavily to the GOP in 2024.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And this whole episode again brings the future of the Republican Party into the spotlight. It creates a new obstacle for Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, who keeps getting torn between defending the president, managing relations between MAGA factions, and fielding Catholic criticism, all as he defines his political career along the lines of his Catholic conversion (which is the theme of his forthcoming book).</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“This will be consequential for JD Vance,” the Trump critic Candace Owens, an emblematic figure of a growing new antiwar, and sometimes antisemitic, Catholic wing of conservative media, posted Sunday.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Can we now all admit that this is a cult of personality, the leading worshiper of which is its leader?” <a href="https://x.com/roddreher/status/2043649141440467450">Rod Dreher</a>, a conservative Eastern Orthodox Christian writer known for his <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/03/rod-dreher-religious-conservativism-jd-vance/685732/">close ties to Vance</a>, posted. He was also critical of Trump’s posts about Pope Leo.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But in addition to how this plays out with Catholics, it’s with the greater religious conservative community, of evangelical and nondenominational Christians, where Trump has now exposed himself unnecessarily.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">They’ve largely stuck with him as the war carries on, motivated in part by the prevalent Christian Zionist beliefs that underlie their faith and support for the modern Israeli state. Now, Trump’s aggressive sacrilege — casting himself as Jesus on social media — on top of already threatening Iran with annihilation right after Easter, the most sacred time of the Christian calendar, is causing a kind of self-reflection, doubt, and criticism of the president that we have not seen before.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“The media is paying attention to [podcasters] breaking with Trump over Iran,” evangelical radio host Erick Erickson <a href="https://x.com/EWErickson/status/2043695599707414668">posted</a>. “What they really should be paying attention to are the Christian Trump supporters who have stood with him through Iran, who are waking up to his blasphemy.”</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Did the Trump administration threaten the pope?]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Editor’s note, April 13, 3 pm ET: On April 12, after this story’s publication, Trump posted a tirade against Pope Leo XIV on Truth Social, calling him “WEAK on crime.” In a subsequent interview, Trump told NBC News, “We don’t like a pope that’s going to say that it’s OK to have a nuclear weapon,” [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<p class="has-text-align-none"><em><strong>Editor’s note, April 13, 3 pm ET:</strong> On April 12, after this story’s publication, Trump posted a tirade against Pope Leo XIV on Truth Social, calling him “WEAK on crime.” In a subsequent interview, Trump told NBC News, “We don’t like a pope that’s going to say that it’s OK to have a nuclear weapon,” and that he was “not a big fan of Pope Leo.” The pope </em><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-not-big-fan-weak-terrible-pope-leo-rcna331461"><em>responded</em></a><em> by saying he has “no fear” of the White House: “We are not politicians, we don’t deal with foreign policy with the same perspective he might understand it, but I do believe in the message of the gospel, as a peacemaker.”</em> <em>The story below was originally published on April 10.</em></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Most American Catholics were probably not expecting to spend the first week of Easter trying to figure out whether their government was threatening to overthrow the first American-born pope.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yet a handful of news<strong> </strong>reports this week raised that very strange possibility. They landed just as both the Roman Catholic Church and right-wing Christian influencers have been ramping up their criticism of the Trump administration over the Iran war.</p>

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<li>A report from<em> </em>the Free Press this week blew up tensions on the right already escalating over the US-Israeli war on Iran.</li>



<li>It alleged that Pentagon officials met with a top Vatican diplomat to the US and raised the memory of a dark time in the Catholic Church’s history: when French rules exercised power over the church and the pope.</li>



<li>There are now competing accounts of what actually happened in that meeting, and denials by the Trump administration and the Vatican.</li>



<li>These reports sparked furor among Catholics and religious conservatives — adding fuel to an ideological civil war threatening the American right, and offering another example of the rift between the Vatican and the US.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">This burgeoning scandal hinges on news reports that in January, the previous ambassador of the Vatican to the United States was called into an unusual meeting with Department of Defense officials at the Pentagon and dressed down.<strong> </strong>The Pentagon officials, reportedly, wanted to complain about a speech Pope Leo XIV gave in Rome that appeared to criticize American foreign policy. During the meeting, one official issued what some in the church saw as a veiled threat to the Vatican: a warning that the US wields unlimited military power, and that the pope should be conscious of that.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">If true, this episode would mark a low point in modern Vatican-American political relations — on top of being a major religious scandal for Catholics in the US.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Trump administration denies these accounts; the Vatican is keeping mostly quiet. Meanwhile, the reporters and writers who first surfaced these allegations are standing by their stories.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Whatever the truth ends up being, this scandal points to some important fracture lines in American religious life, and offers a key to understanding the way the Iran war is cracking up the religious right. It&nbsp; also fits into a broader conflict that is testing MAGA Catholics’ resolve, and setting up the Catholic Church as one of the Trump administration’s most visible and relevant critics.&nbsp;</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">So what exactly is the scandal?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This whole saga began with <a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/why-the-vatican-and-the-white-house">a report from the Free Press</a> on Wednesday, in which Italian journalist Mattia Ferraresi reported on a previously unknown meeting between Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby, then-top Vatican diplomat in the US Cardinal Christophe Pierre, and a handful of Pentagon officials.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The meeting, which is now confirmed to have happened, was unusual, Ferraresi and other reports noted, because of where and when it happened: at the Pentagon, instead of with diplomats of the Department of State, and after Pope Leo had delivered a speech decrying the breakdown in the post-war international order and the escalating use of force and violence abroad by nations, including the US, to achieve their aims.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“War is back in vogue and the zeal for war is spreading,” Leo had said in his speech to diplomats.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That the meeting happened isn’t in doubt; but no one seems to agree on what was actually said in the encounter. The Free Press reported that the meeting was meant to be a warning to the Vatican, a reminder that militarily, the US can do “whatever it wants…and that the Vatican, and Leo, better take its side.” And so, it devolved into a “bitter lecture.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Pentagon, meanwhile, said Thursday that the group “had a substantive, respectful, and professional meeting” and that “recent reporting of the meeting is highly exaggerated and distorted.” The US ambassador to the Holy See (the Vatican’s political government) echoed that sentiment, and called media reports exaggerations and fabrications.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But other news outlets also began picking up on the fallout. NBC Chicago, of the pope’s hometown, quoted <a href="https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/source-calls-pentagon-meeting-with-vatican-official-most-unpleasant-amid-reported-white-house-tension/3920503/?amp=1">a Vatican source</a> who called the Pentagon meeting “most unpleasant and confrontational.” The Financial Times reported that the meeting was supposed to deliver a “friendly message” to the pope, and to ask the Vatican to be more supportive of the Trump administration’s policies, but unraveled when Pierre said the pope would follow Catholic values in conducting Vatican foreign policy.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That’s when one specific term jumps out, which caused this whole episode to become an actual scandal. Someone in the room, according to the Free Press, <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/1e172f5e-b45a-422e-a5aa-70e8bba506d6">the Financial Times</a>, and independent journalist <a href="https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo">Christopher Hale</a>, invoked the name “Avignon” —&nbsp;which some Vatican officials reportedly understood to be a military threat against the Vatican.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Why did this particular phrase set off alarm bells? To answer that, we have to go back 700 years.&nbsp;</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Did a Trump official really threaten the Vatican?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Though these accounts don’t agree on who invoked Avignon, the term is a trigger for Catholics, historians, and history buffs: It references the French city that served as the home base for popes in the 14th century after a French king, Philip IV, sent an army to Italy where they attacked the sitting pope, Boniface VIII, after years of feuding over who was the preeminent political power.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Phiip IV went on to force the election of a new French pope, who moved the papacy to Avignon. For 70 years, popes held court and governed Christendom from the city’s papal palace —&nbsp;and when the last Avignon pope tried to move the office back to Rome, it spawned a crisis for the church and the rise of rival “antipopes” in Avignon claiming to be the real pope for nearly 40 years after.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">As you might now understand, “Avignon” is a loaded term. And combined with the nature of the meeting —&nbsp;at the Pentagon, having to do with comments Pope Leo had made about America’s use of force — you can see how this episode could be interpreted as being a veiled warning about the church staying in its lane when it comes to criticizing the dominant military power.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Why are the US and the pope so at odds?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Regardless of who invoked Avignon or how confrontational the meeting was behind the scenes, it fits into a <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/03/31/pope-leo-trump-iran-war-us-policies">pattern</a> of growing <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/catholic-church-trump-immigration/686510/">public conflict</a> between the Church and the Trump presidency.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This applies to both style and substance: Pope Leo, and the American bishops, have become <a href="https://www.vox.com/life/470073/pope-leo-liberal-socialist-conservative-maga-ai-immigration-deportations">loud critics</a> of Trump’s immigration and mass deportation policy, his foreign interventions abroad and use of force against other nations, and the breakdown of the US-European alliance. For all intents and purposes, MAGA <em>has</em> forced the Catholic Church to appear like <a href="https://www.vox.com/life/478653/pope-leo-immigration-resistance-trump-maga-catholic-christian-nationalism-authoritarianism">the chief resistance</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But it’s the joint US-Israeli war on Iran that has caused the most visible strain and direct condemnation of Trump and the American government by the Roman pontiff. After spending weeks calling for peace talks and ceasefires, and preaching the Church’s anti-war message during Holy Week commemorations, Leo used Trump’s name for the <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/leo-first-us-pope-emerges-pointed-trump-critic-2026-04-02/">first time</a> last week, expressing hope that he was “looking for an off-ramp” from the war.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And after Trump warned that Iranian civilization might “die” on Tuesday, <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-leo-calls-trumps-threat-against-iran-truly-unacceptable-2026-04-07/">Leo condemned</a> the statements as “truly unacceptable” and urged “the citizens of all the countries involved to contact the authorities, political leaders, congressmen, to ask them, tell them to work for peace and to reject war.”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Has Pope Leo weighed in on Avignon-gate?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The pope hasn’t said anything on this latest development, but the Vatican has weighed in —&nbsp;a significant move given their traditional reluctance to address these kinds of political disputes.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">After the Vatican Press Office initially <a href="https://x.com/NiwaLimbu1988/status/2042239224770957497?s=20">declined to comment</a> earlier in the week, Vatican press secretary Matteo Bruni released a statement on Friday <a href="https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/it/comunicazioni/2026/04/10/comunicazione-ai-giornalisti.html">confirming Cardinal Pierre met with Colby</a> “for an exchange of views on matters of mutual interest,” and that “the narrative offered by certain media outlets regarding this meeting does not correspond at all with the truth” —&nbsp;without clarifying which narrative that was, or where existing reporting got things wrong.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Meanwhile, the Vatican diplomat involved in the meeting, Cardinal Pierre, told one independent journalist he would “<a href="https://x.com/NiwaLimbu1988/status/2042239224770957497?s=20">prefer not speak</a>.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But the Free Press report suggested that this dustup is leading the Vatican to keep the US government at arm’s length while Trump is president. The first American pope has declined invitations to come to the US during its 250th celebrations, and will instead spend that time <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/pope-leo-will-accept-liberty-medal-in-remote-broadcast-from-rome-forgoing-u-s-visit#:~:text=forgoing%2Du%2Ds%2Dvisit-,Pope%20Leo%20will%20accept%20Liberty%20Medal%20in%20remote%20broadcast%20from,to%20manage%20relations%20with%20Trump">at an island in Italy</a> where migrants fleeing danger in Africa frequently stop off while trying to reach Europe. The Trump administration has <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/485058/hungary-election-2026-orban-trump-vance-maga">openly supported</a> anti-immigrant political parties and leaders in Europe, while also trying to block asylum seekers and refugees from entering America.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Where does JD Vance come into all this?&nbsp;</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Vance, a Catholic convert who has a book coming out later this year on his faith journey, was asked about the Pentagon episode on Wednesday while traveling in Hungary. He <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-reacts-report-us-official-issued-threat-vatican-ambassador-11802350">denied knowing</a> the Vatican diplomat in question, and said he’d rather not comment on an unconfirmed report.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Vance is the highest ranking of a significant number of Catholics serving in the Trump administration (including Secretary of State Marco Rubio), was one of the last public leaders to meet with the late Pope Francis before his death, and was <a href="https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/jd-vance-rebuked-by-two-popes-publishes">famously</a> rebuked by two popes (Francis and Leo, albeit before the latter became pope) for <a href="https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/08/new-pope-was-critical-of-vpjd-vance-in-social-post-earlier-this-year/83517882007/">invoking his new faith</a> to defend the Trump administration’s immigration policy.&nbsp;</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>Beyond being a spectacle, Avignon-gate is also a helpful key to understanding what is happening on the religious right in 2026.</p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="has-text-align-none">As Vance’s prior papal feuds indicate, the Free Press story also runs into some intra-Catholic tensions. Colby, the Pentagon official embroiled in the mess and a reported ally of Vance, is also Catholic. Some of the leading intellectual figures on the right in MAGA circles are traditionalist Catholics who have been critical of the current and former popes for what they see as concessions to modern liberal political values.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Within US politics, Vance also represents a wing of the GOP that is being split apart by the Iran war, partly over religious lines — and in ways that could threaten his potential aspirations for the presidency in 2028. This story could make that divide even more difficult to navigate.&nbsp;</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">How does this latest story fit into MAGA’s current civil war?&nbsp;</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Beyond being a spectacle, Avignon-gate is also a helpful key to understanding what is happening on the religious right in 2026, and how the Iran war is affecting both the MAGA coalition and the American Catholic Church.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The report landed just as arguments over Israel and Iran were driving a wedge between the GOP’s pro-Trump evangelical base, who tend to be Christian Zionists sympathetic to Israel, and a group of prominent Catholic and non-evangelical commentators who are increasingly <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/484125/israel-maga-iran-religious-catholic-evangelical-zionism-dispensationalism-vatican-anti-semitism-tucker-huckabee-ted-cruz">hostile to Trump’s foreign policy agenda</a> and critical of Israel.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Among the latter group, which includes Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Carrie Prejean Boller, and Nick Fuentes, Avignon-gate quickly became a hot topic, with many eager to embrace the most explosive interpretation of events.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“On the pope thing, that is how you know this administration is the antichrist…these people hate Catholics,&#8221; the self-described Catholic and white supremacist Nick Fuentes said on his show Thursday. Boller took aim at Colby on X, <a href="https://x.com/CarriePrejean1/status/2042250180272292117?s=20">saying</a>, “you won’t bully or threaten the Catholic Church into your unjust war.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Many of these more isolationist and antiwar figures have also been condemned within the right for <a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/ted-cruz-says-gop-not-winning-right-now-in-fight-over-jew-hatred-slams-tucker-carlson/">either tolerating or openly espousing antisemitism</a>. As they rally to the church’s side now over the war, and justify their opposition to Trump in <a href="https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-just-made-the-case-that-trump-is-the-antichrist/">increasingly theological terms</a>, this episode puts more pressure on Leo to address the church’s relationship with them as well. Ferraresi, the author of the Free Press article that kicked off this affair, challenged Pope Leo in the same piece to condemn “the growing choir of Catholic pundits injecting bigotry into the MAGA infosphere,” and not just focus the church’s fire on the pro-war right.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In short, it’s a mess. Avignon-gate is almost perfectly calibrated to raise temperatures not only between the White House and the Vatican, but within the US Catholic community, and within the MAGA movement. And the issues it raises are nowhere near being resolved.</p>

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<p class="has-drop-cap has-text-align-none">When candidate Donald Trump promised mass deportations on the 2024 campaign trail, it was hard to imagine exactly what that might turn into.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Though he boasted about implementing the “largest domestic deportation operation” in history, you could be forgiven for believing he meant something more limited — a “sequential” approach (as JD Vance <a href="https://abcnews.com/Politics/jd-vance-mass-deportations-start-1-million-defends/story?id=112739447">suggested</a>), starting with recent arrivals, “violent criminals,” and suspected gang members.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That, at least, seemed to be what a lot of voters who trusted him on this topic imagined —&nbsp;including many immigrant-heavy communities who voted Republican in historic numbers, and were also concerned about the sometimes chaotic flow of asylum seekers into the country.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Pollsters were quick to note that, though many of these deportation proposals were quite popular with the average American, <a href="https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/379883/mass-deportations-trump-harris-polling-immigration-border">support varied dramatically</a> depending on the details. Targeted ICE arrests of convicted felons and those who arrived in the United States during the Biden presidency polled significantly better than separating mixed-status families, carrying out arrests at or near churches and schools, and deporting longtime residents — who might be your neighbors or friends.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Instead, American cities were occupied by <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/takeaways-from-trumps-federal-law-enforcement-surge-in-dc-as-his-emergency-order-is-set-to-expire">federal law enforcement</a> agencies; the <a href="https://capitalbnews.org/trump-national-guard-city-updates/">National Guard was deployed</a> to quell <a href="https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/06/09/los-angeles-ice-national-guard-protests">protests</a>; <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/12/18/us-masked-federal-agents-undermine-rule-of-law">unidentified and masked agents</a> strolled through neighborhoods, chased suspects into stores, and arrested immigrants at <a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/03/26/nx-s1-5762691/doj-admits-ice-courthouse-arrests-relied-on-erroneous-information">courthouses</a>; protesters, <a href="https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2025/09/19/daniel-biss-protesters-tear-gas-ice-broadview-agents">politicians</a>, and journalists were <a href="https://pressfreedomtracker.us/all-incidents/journalist-tackled-arrested-by-federal-agents-at-illinois-ice-protest/">arrested or injured</a>; people with pending asylum cases were seized and deported to a notorious <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/venezuelan-deportees-trump-immigration-asylum-el-salvador">foreign maximum-security prison</a>; and two American citizens were shot and killed.<strong>&nbsp;</strong></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Much of the Department of Homeland Security remained shut down or operated without pay as Democrats demanded new limits attached to any funding this month. In response, Trump deployed ICE to airports —&nbsp;to help beleaguered TSA agents and even <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5800399-trump-ice-airports-dhs/">rehabilitate their image</a>, he says, but also implicitly to pressure an opposition party that has come to see them as the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/us/politics/trump-ice-airports.html">president’s personal army</a> and associate them with repression. “<a href="https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/james-comer-praises-ice-at-airports-because-itll-drive-democrats-crazy/">That’ll drive the Democrats crazy</a>,” US Rep. James Comer (R-KY) said on Fox Business News recently.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A year into this deportation program, it’s safe to say that the joint work of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, US Border Patrol, and other federal agencies has reshaped American life, from coast to coast, in both dramatic and more quiet ways. It has touched all kinds of ethnic communities — <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/04/us/minneapolis-somali-community-ice-immigration">Somalis</a> in Minnesota, <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/478308/haitians-in-america-fear-trump-ice-tps">Haitians</a> in Ohio, <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/michigan-arab-communities-ice-fear">Arabs</a> in Michigan — and has had a particular impact on the nation’s largest cohort of recent immigrants, those from Latin America.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A new kind of civically conscious activist has risen in places that experienced ICE surges or are continuing to see enforcement actions. Local economies were devastated by deportation efforts, and are still struggling to recover. And fear, suspicion — and, in some cases, paranoia — have remade the social fabric of communities touched by ICE.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But in conversations with affected people across the country, there’s also a sense of hope — and a sense that the Trump administration is realizing how far it has gone, and may be attempting to tone down or change how it pursues its immigration goals.&nbsp;</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="ice-created-a-new-kind-of-citizen-activist-the-case-of-charlotte">ICE created a new kind of citizen-activist —  the case of Charlotte</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">When rumors began circulating last year that ICE was planning a surge of agents to the Charlotte, North Carolina, area, locals were alarmed and looking for something to do.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I was never really an activist, but the stuff that I was seeing, I just didn’t like,” Jonathan Pierce, a drugstore employee in Hickory, North Carolina, told me. “I didn&#8217;t like how Trump talked about immigrants and I was seeing how the immigration stuff was affecting people that I work with, who are my friends, who have been active in church.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Fortunately, for Pierce, he had options. Concerned citizens had an easy entry point into local activism and a clear blueprint for action that had been prepared months in advance and was being tested and updated in cities around the country.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In November, Homeland Security officially announced <a href="https://apnews.com/article/charlottes-web-immigration-north-carolina-eb-white-e89ca4cfbbf0e23281da8a3e9bb89803">Operation “Charlotte’s Web.”</a> Soon, unmarked vans and masked federal agents patrolled the city and its suburbs. They would end up carrying out raids, arresting and detaining hundreds, and sparking fear in the region’s primarily Hispanic immigrant communities. But locals were already organizing and responding.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It started at the grassroots level, with support from religious leaders. Immigrant rights groups and legal aid organizations were already in contact with pastors, priests, and preachers in the region to iron out ways they could support immigrant neighbors. Congregants at the First United Methodist church in Taylorsville, North Carolina — Pierce among them —&nbsp;had already begun attending trainings on how to respond.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The original plan was to teach volunteers how they could help vulnerable neighbors get to and from churches and schools, the Rev. Joel Simpson, a First United Methodist pastor,&nbsp;told me. As they watched ICE tactics grow more aggressive in other cities where they had launched major operations, “those trainings shifted from what we had originally planned once we realized this could get much more violent and intense.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Working with groups like Siembra NC and the Carolina Migrant Network, churches began to host more trainings and activate neighbors to sign up to monitor ICE operations. They learned de-escalation tactics, how to communicate via whistles, and how to document interactions between ICE agents and detained people. They refreshed their frightened neighbors on what their rights were, shared how to get legal assistance, and how to be aware of potential danger.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In all, more than 2,000 people were trained and organized during that first week of ICE operations in the area, Simpson told me.</p>
<img src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/03/gettyimages-2247795728.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="A large gathering in support of immigrants inside a North Carolina church" title="A large gathering in support of immigrants inside a North Carolina church" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="Religious and moral leaders involved in the Repairers of the Breach and Moral Mondays movements hold a gathering in support of immigrants after ICE raids in Charlotte, North Carolina, with Bishop William J. Barber II on November 24, 2025. | Peter Zay/Anadolu via Getty Images" data-portal-copyright="Peter Zay/Anadolu via Getty Images" />
<p class="has-text-align-none">The defining image of resistance during Trump’s first term was the mass protest: The Women’s March at its start, the March for Our Lives in the middle, and finally Black Lives Matter protests at the end. In his second term, it has become more about individual action: Recording federal agents with a smartphone or sounding a car horn to alert a street to their presence.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The Minneapolis uprising that forced ICE to pull out in January —&nbsp;and eventually led to the firing of DHS secretary Kristi Noem — confirmed the ascendance of a <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/477385/minneapolis-ice-trump-protest-activism-pretti-good-authoritarian-organizing-resistance">new type of activist movement</a> that had already established itself around the country: Small, nimble, local, and constantly adopting new tactics to protect neighbors from harassment, detention, or deportation.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“It’s churches and neighborhoods and grassroots community organizational networks that are already existing that mobilized to help immigrant families first and foremost,” Theda Skocpol, an expert on political organizing in the US, told me in January.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">While Minneapolis was the culmination of these forms of networking, elements of this activism preceded it in places like <a href="https://lapublicpress.org/2025/11/la-ice-bystanders-help-immigration/">Los Angeles</a>, <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/09/21/nx-s1-5538428/in-chicago-ice-actions-are-triggering-a-new-wave-of-political-activism">Chicago</a>, and <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/09/11/immigrants-school-kids-trump-dc/">Washington, DC</a>, all following similar blueprints.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">TheTrump administration sees it differently: Officials have argued that these protests and community organizing tactics are impeding normal enforcement operations — particularly deporting criminals — and that participants have <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/us/politics/justice-dept-prosecute-protesters.html">endangered officers</a> with disruptive behavior. Earlier this year, Trump <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-threatens-to-use-insurrection-act-to-put-down-protests-in-minneapolis">threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act</a> and use federal troops to quash protests.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Pierce’s life feels a lot different now than a year ago. He’s participated in those November trainings; he’s joined protests in both Raleigh and in Washington, DC, and he now cares about more than just immigration.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Though he’s been limited by his work schedule — child care responsibilities as a single parent — and weather, he’s tried to remain active, trying to convince neighbors in Hickory to care about ICE <em>and</em> other economic concerns ahead of the 2026 midterms: organizing letter-writing campaigns to local and state representatives, and talking with neighbors about the future of SNAP benefits, health insurance, and affordability.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Pierce is an example of what another preacher told me has changed in the Charlotte area: of politically agnostic or sympathetic neighbors being convinced to practice what they believe.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I knew that there were people in Charlotte that cared for the immigrant community, but it wasn&#8217;t until Border Patrol was in Charlotte that I saw the action that came attached to that,” Erika Reynoso, a Pentecostal preacher in Gastonia, a neighboring suburb, told me. “It gave them a chance to take action as opposed to just having an ideology.”</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>“They know what it takes. So if Border Patrol shows up again, we’re ready.”</p><cite>Erika Reynoso, Pentecostal preacher in North Carolina</cite></blockquote></figure>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Reynoso knew plenty of people who were detained or racially profiled during the Charlotte surge. She herself feared what might happen to her as ICE behaved more aggressively. Though she began to participate in ICE watches and mutual aid groups early in November, once she heard reports of Latino citizens being detained and questioned, she pulled back.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I went to one of the sightings and thankfully there was already a white male verifier there, and I asked him, ‘Hey, are you here to verify?’ And he said, ‘Yes, you should leave immediately,’” she said. &#8220;I knew that in that moment there was something terrible happening in that neighborhood and he was protecting me.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Instead, she shifted her activism toward more quiet forms of mutual aid, of educating neighbors, and preaching about social justice at her church. And though ICE’s heavy presence is gone now, those memories and that fear still linger.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But these communities have been changed for the better, too, Reynoso said. The training has stuck with them, and so has the confidence that it can make a difference in practice.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“They know what it takes,” she said. “So if Border Patrol shows up again, we’re ready.”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="local-economies-still-feel-under-siege-the-case-of-chicago">Local economies still feel under siege —&nbsp;the case of Chicago</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Anchored by taquerias, grocery stores, boutique shops, and bakeries on 26th Street southwest of downtown Chicago, Little Village is known as the “Mexico of the Midwest.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s renowned for being the economic engine of Chicago’s Latino community —&nbsp;city officials told me that along with the Magnificent Mile downtown, Little Village is among the top tax-revenue-generating stretches of Chicago.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And it&#8217;s not just the locals driving commerce: Little Village, and specifically the 26th Street corridor, “is a tourist destination for other Latinos in the United States,” Jennifer Aguilar, the executive director of the local chamber of commerce, told me. “We see a lot of visitors from the Midwest and East Coast that come to buy things that they can’t find in the states that they live in, like food, quinceañera dresses or ingredients that they need to cook traditional dishes. And since a lot of them can&#8217;t go to Mexico, this is the next big best thing.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Then the immigration authorities arrived.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">When Greg Bovino, the former Border Patrol commander-at-large, came to town, residents, leaders, and business owners knew to expect disruption. They just didn’t expect how bad things would get, how hard the economic hit would be, and how long it would take to recover.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Immediately, the midwestern Latino visitors who made the trek by car to drive under the corridor’s iconic welcome arch were too afraid to come in “because they heard that ICE was targeting Little Village,” Aguilar said.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">News coverage at the time showed scenes of a ghost town in Little Village, of canceled Mexican Independence Day celebrations in downtown, of ICE targets being chased into shops and restaurants, of seemingly random traffic stops, and of protests prompting armored vehicles and federal agents to deploy tear gas — including at least three times in Little Village.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The effect was immediate. From September to late October, when ICE was most active in Chicago, business owners in Little Village were reporting 50 percent to 60 percent drops in sales compared to the previous year, according to the local alderperson, Michael D. Rodriguez. Some shops struggled to make a single sale in a week, while others temporarily closed their doors.</p>
<img src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/03/gettyimages-2242927216.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="Protesters in Chicago march down the Mexican American neighborhood with a sign that reads No Trump No Troops" title="Protesters in Chicago march down the Mexican American neighborhood with a sign that reads No Trump No Troops" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="&lt;p&gt;Protesters march against ICE during the “ICE and DHS Out of Little Village”  in Chicago on October 25, 2025.&lt;/p&gt; | Kamil Krzaczynski/AFP via Getty Images" data-portal-copyright="Kamil Krzaczynski/AFP via Getty Images" />
<p class="has-text-align-none">Wherever ICE and CBP officers have surged, a trail of economic devastation has<strong> </strong>often followed. Local businesses in <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/06/24/ice-raids-deportations-local-economy-immigrants/">multiple</a> <a href="https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/how-minneapolis-is-tallying-the-cost-of-ice-report-says-small-businesses-lost-up-to-81m-in-january/">cities</a> have complained of foot traffic shutting down, frightened employees staying home, and vendors scared off streets.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Nationally, these enforcement operations have remade the economy. The flow of immigrants into the United States — both documented and undocumented<strong> </strong>— has turned net negative for the first time in 50 years, according to a <a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/macroeconomic-implications-of-immigration-flows-in-2025-and-2026-january-2026-update/">Brookings Institution report</a>, with more people now exiting the country overall. The report estimated the change could result in a $60 billion to $110 billion drop in consumer spending between 2025 and 2026, and further worsen prices because of higher labor and production costs, particularly in agriculture, construction, and manufacturing.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">While the White House has touted every migrant worker removed as a potential job opening for a native-born one, hiring has <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/2026-labor-market-set-begin-taking-shape-february-jobs-report-rcna261994">slowed nationally over the same period</a>. The administration has also made some concessions to immigrant-heavy industries, particularly agriculture, by <a href="https://stateline.org/2025/11/21/trump-allows-more-foreign-ag-workers-eases-off-ice-raids-on-farms/">discouraging raids</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But these big-picture statistics can obscure the very real way these economic hits have damaged American communities. And perhaps no place is a better example of this pattern than Little Village.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">When trying to describe the economic pain caused over these weeks, the Chicagoans I spoke to tended to come back to a chilling comparison: the Covid-19 pandemic.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The last time they had felt a shock like this had been during the peak of the coronavirus shutdowns. But unlike in 2020, there were no equivalent grant programs or federally backed loans, like the Paycheck Protection Program, to help keep businesses and employees afloat.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“At least people were getting paid; you had essential workers, and I never stopped working,” Christina Gonzalez, the co-owner of the Los Comales taqueria and catering group, told me. “But we were recovering from 2020 and this [with tariffs] hit us like a one-two punch.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">When ICE and CBP arrived, businesses were already struggling with higher costs as a result of tariffs, and dealing with financial hits from some enforcement actions in the city in the first half of the year. Shop owners had to furlough or lay off employees; others couldn’t convince workers to commute to the area, for fear of being detained. This all created a cycle: Lost wages meant less purchasing power, which meant lower sales for these small businesses.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In response, city and local officials have tried their best to take stock of what was happening and track the lingering fallout. Since October, local, state, and federal representatives have met with business owners, collected testimony, connected businesses with small grant funds, and promoted campaigns to convince people of means — often wealthier, white, or citizens — to visit Little Village and other primarily Mexican American neighborhoods to shop and spend.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Still, the impacts have lingered. Chicago City Clerk Anna Valencia, whose office started the “Shopping in Solidarity” initiative to promote visits and investment from those outside Little Village, said there’s only so much she and local communities can do without more state and city support. She’s called for the creation of a joint public-private relief fund to help with small business recovery and investment efforts in 2026. And she’s preparing for more bad news in April across the city.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“When the tax returns are filed, you’ll be able to actually see the real numbers,” she said. “But we know that it’s already going to be devastating just by hearing the stories and seeing it with our own eyes — the ghost towns of a lot of our neighborhoods.”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="the-social-fabric-has-been-changed-everywhere">The social fabric has been changed — everywhere</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">All these months later, residents across the country, particularly those in immigrant or diaspora communities, continue to describe a kind of “survival mode” —&nbsp;a feeling that extends beyond economic pain.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s a sense of wariness that sometimes borders on paranoia, that ICE will return or is hanging around the corner. And it lingers even as residents prepare for better weather and more time spent together outdoors —&nbsp;a footprint still left on residents’ souls as they navigate public life across the country.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The stories of Latino residents in the greater Phoenix area gave me another window into this reality, in addition to stories from Charlotte and Chicago. Immigrants, mixed-status families, citizens, and activists in Maricopa County have a long history with immigration politics, deportations, and the inevitable shearing of the social fabric that comes with it.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This part of the country was the focal point of enforcement in the pre-Trump years, when the battle over immigration and what to do about those who had been living in the US for years was most acrimonious. Championed by hardline anti-illegal immigration officials like Gov. Jan Brewer and Maricopa County&nbsp;Sheriff Joe Arpaio, state law SB 1070 essentially deputized local law enforcement to enforce immigration law: requiring police to check immigration status during stops if they suspected someone might be undocumented. It made a lack of documentation a state crime, and empowered Arpaio, “America’s toughest sheriff,” to continue an aggressive crackdown on undocumented immigrants in the county that sparked accusations of racial profiling and mental and emotional distress to brown people in the region.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The law was largely <a href="https://www.law.nyu.edu/news/SUPREME_COURT_ARIZONA_IMMIGRATION_LAW">blocked</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/16/us/arizona-limits-police-enforce-immigration.html">in court</a> after years of long legal battles. But that memory —&nbsp;and the activism and organizing that sprang up in response by primarily Mexican Americans in the area —&nbsp;still remains.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Though Phoenix hasn’t seen the same kind of mass deployments that Chicago, Charlotte, or Minneapolis have faced, the area has experienced similar kinds of quiet enforcement, <a href="https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2026/03/23/ice-raid-at-colt-grill-restaurants-in-arizona-a-wake-up-call/88220209007/">targeted raids</a>, and rumor-mill sightings of federal agents across the area, as in those other cities.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Our community is thinking twice when they open their doors, when they leave their homes,” César Fierros, an organizer and spokesperson for the immigrant rights group Living United for Change in Arizona, told me. “It’s this thing in the back of your head: <em>What if you get stopped because of the color of your skin</em>? or they inquire about your citizenship because of the color of your skin.“ It’s a fear, Fierros said, “even among citizens and people that have the proper documentation to be in the country,” of having to encounter a federal officer, of being racially profiled, of being harassed —&nbsp;because community members feel like it’s happened before.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Fierros told me that he’s had to have conversations with his family similar to the ones his organization is having with community members: of carrying a REAL ID, a passport, or a permanent residency card at all times and making plans if a family member without documentation is detained.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“My mom’s a school bus driver. She has an accent because English is not her primary language and she’s very proud of being an American. But at the same time, she’s fearful of potentially being racially profiled by ICE or by a federal agent or by law enforcement,” Fierros told me. So his mother carries her passport with her, something that she has never done before.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It’s not just Fierros’s community that has this fear or has changed their behavior like this. I heard similar stories from each of the people I spoke to for this story. Driven by news reports that not only undocumented immigrants have been detained or targeted for deportation, but also people in <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/asylum-seekers-pressured-leave-us-dhs-immigration-ice-detention-rcna259534">legal asylum proceedings</a>, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/19/us/politics/refugees-green-cards.html?smid=url-share">refugees</a>, <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/06/23/nx-s1-5441691/mahmoud-khalil-interview">green card holders</a>, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/court-rules-government-cant-deport-rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-student-rcna258277">students</a>, and <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will">US citizens</a>,&nbsp;their personal safety has never felt more precarious.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This uneasiness has registered in national polling as well. A Pew Research Center survey published in November analyzing the mood and feeling of <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2025/11/24/majorities-of-latinos-disapprove-of-trump-and-his-policies-on-immigration-economy/">Latinos living in the US</a> found a consistent shift in how they are changing their behavior as a result of Trump’s second-term enforcement agenda. Some one in five Hispanic adults told pollsters they changed their daily activities out of fear they’ll be asked to “prove their legal status.” One in 10 say they carry a document to prove citizenship or legal status now, more often than they used to do.</p>
<img src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/03/gettyimages-2200393660.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" alt="Hundreds of people gathered for a protest and march at the Arizona State Capitol Building" title="Hundreds of people gathered for a protest and march at the Arizona State Capitol Building" data-has-syndication-rights="1" data-caption="&lt;p&gt;Protesters march at the Arizona state Capitol building in Phoenix on February&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif;&quot;&gt; 5, 2025, to protest&lt;/span&gt; the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement policies.&lt;/p&gt; | &lt;p&gt;Alexandra Buxbaum/Majority World/Universal Images Group via Getty Images&lt;/p&gt;" data-portal-copyright="&lt;p&gt;Alexandra Buxbaum/Majority World/Universal Images Group via Getty Images&lt;/p&gt;" />
<p class="has-text-align-none">And then there are more difficult conversations, about what a family will have to do in the case that someone is detained.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yolanda Landeros, a 56-year-old resident of Buckeye, a Phoenix suburb, told me that in addition to carrying a REAL ID and avoiding spending too much time outdoors, she’s had to develop different plans with her extended family in the Southwest and Iowa about what to do if ICE comes knocking or detains a member —&nbsp;memorizing phone numbers to alert family or attorneys, knowing not to open doors, and asking for warrants.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">She’s most worried about an undocumented cousin living in Iowa, who deals with chronic health issues and requires dialysis treatment.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“If he gets detained, he could be there for days, weeks, or months. He can’t do that. He won’t survive,” Landeros told me.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So they developed a Plan A, B, and C:</p>

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<li>Plan A: He asks for an immediate deportation, and signs whatever paperwork he’s asked to sign. “We have family in Mexico ready for him, to pick him up,” she said.&nbsp;</li>



<li>Plan B: They hire an immigration attorney to try to fight a lengthy detention. But they’re expensive, and live in different states. “Here in Arizona, I know I can contact someone who can offer pro-bono help,” she said. “But in Iowa, I don’t know anybody.”</li>



<li>Which leaves Plan C: funeral arrangements. “But funeral arrangements are super expensive, and we’ve already had several deaths in our family,” she said.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The stories of changed social and family life around the country reminded me of what my colleague Anna North recently dubbed the “<a href="https://www.vox.com/policy/479662/ice-immigration-school-kids-children-workers-covid-pandemic">ICE pandemic</a>” —&nbsp;the sense that even beyond the lasting fear and economic damage that ICE surges created, there is also lingering damage to community trust and willingness to participate in social life. Kids have been kept home from school or educated remotely; churchgoers skipped services or were issued dispensations to forgive a missed Mass; scared workers stayed home and refused to expose themselves to potential stops; sick kids or adults in need of medical care opted to delay or postpone checkups for fear of ICE exposure.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And there’s the sadness that comes with knowing people who have opted to uproot their lives preemptively, retire early, or self-deport.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“They want to wear people down, and it has worked in some instances,” Aguilar, the Chicago small business activist, told me. “Some business owners have shared with me stories of regular clients that they&#8217;ve had for years that decided to self-deport because they&#8217;re like, <em>Well, I’d rather take my stuff with me. I’d rather go home in a dignified way than end up in one of these camps and God knows where I’ll end up and if my family’s going to be able to reach me</em>.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Gonzales, of Los Comales in Chicago, recalled how her son asked her if he should be carrying his passport or ID around with him in order to prove his citizenship.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I said, ‘No, fuck &#8217;em.’ Somebody needs to vet me? I’m not living in a Kafka-esque Nazi government,” she said. “You can find me with my fingerprints or you can figure out who I am based on the information I give you from my mouth. But I should not have to show you my goddamn ID to walk down the street.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Ratings of <a href="https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker">Trump’s immigration polic</a>y have been solidly negative for months now among voters, shifting most dramatically among Latinos, Latino Republicans, and Trump 2024 voters.<em> </em>A Fox News poll in March found his overall approval at 28 percent with Hispanic respondents, with 72 percent disapproving. Democrats have also <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/467567/latino-voters-2025-new-jersey-midterms-2026-trump-gains-reverse-coalition">made gains in elections</a> with Hispanic communities that swung right in 2024. Trump has reportedly told his inner circle that he fears his early plans for <a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-told-inner-circle-some-mass-deportation-policies-went-too-far-01518550">“mass deportation” have gone too far</a> for voters.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For now, residents in these communities remain in a bit of a holding pattern. They all expect that ICE or CBP will return at some point, particularly after the outrage and attention that the Minneapolis operations sparked dies down. But they also feel some optimism about how their communities and neighbors will respond in the future. In each of my conversations, a silver lining was repeated: that even though there is more suspicion and fear now, there are new bonds that have been forged among neighbors, in faith communities, and among Latinos themselves, specifically.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Whatever divisions there may have been across the Latino community with the us versus them, the documented versus the undocumented, the criminals versus the noncriminals…there&#8217;s a greater sense of unity now and a willingness to help,” Reynoso, the Pentecostal pastor in North Carolina, told me. “We must exercise grace and compassion with each other in these uncertain times.”</p>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Nearly a month into the joint US-Israeli war on Iran, there’s a good chance you’ve heard something about the apparent civil war on the right over the conflict. Though polling shows <a href="https://www.wabe.org/how-the-war-in-iran-is-landing-with-republicans-according-to-a-new-ap-norc-poll/">steady support</a> for President Donald Trump from his MAGA base, the war has been <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/22/maga-media-fight-trump-iran-war">tearing apart</a> the MAGAsphere, pitting disenchanted MAGA influencers against fervent pro-Trump and pro-Israel loyalists.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The seeds of this split were apparent even before the US and Israel launched their first strikes, when Tucker Carlson, of the America First, Israel-skeptical, anti-interventionist wing of the party, interviewed Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel and fervent pro-Israel activist, on Carlson’s podcast last month. Huckabee argued that, as a Christian Zionist, he believed the Bible showed that God had promised not just Israel, but large portions of the Middle East, to the Jewish people. Carlson argued it wasn’t a valid basis for a modern state, and accused Israel of dragging the US into war with Iran.</p>

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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>There are cracks emerging in the diverse coalition of America’s religious right — accelerated in the past weeks over the US-Israeli war on Iran.</li>



<li>On the surface, these disagreements have to do with differences over what different Christians believe “Israel” means in their teachings.</li>



<li>2028 GOP presidential hopefuls are now getting implicated — by either injecting themselves into the discourse, as Ted Cruz did, or by getting called out, like Vice President JD Vance.</li>



<li>These debates are also forcing difficult conversations among Catholics about their place in the GOP and their relationship with Jewish people.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">As their conversation suggested, there’s a religious dimension to this emerging rift on the right:&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Huckabee is an evangelical Christian, a group that is <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-american-evangelical-christians-have-deep-ties-to-supporting-israel">overwhelmingly</a> pro-Israel. Carlson, like many of the biggest critics of both the US relationship with Israel and the Iran war, is not.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Since their interview, this divide has exploded into public view as a political, theological, and policy argument across multiple fronts that’s drawn in everyone from likely 2028 presidential candidates, to popular influencers, to top religious leaders. The most explosive fights have centered on the relationship between conservative Catholics and the GOP’s dominant evangelical base.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">How these play out will have implications not just for inter-religious understanding in the US, but for the future of the Republican Party, and by extension American politics.&nbsp;</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none"><strong>An emerging rift in the Trump political coalition</strong></h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Until recently, the story of the religious right had largely been about increasing cooperation to defend traditional values in a secularizing world. This political effort created interdenominational alliances within the Republican Party: evangelicals, Catholics, Mormons, and Orthodox Jews found each other allied on issues like gay marriage, abortion, education, and protections for religious dissenters. In the Bush years, almost the entire GOP was united around confronting Islamic terrorism, an issue where Israel was seen as a leading ally.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But in recent years, this relationship has come into question. Trump’s hedonistic personal style expanded the party tent to more secular voters with their own divergent interests. His criticism of the Iraq War and embrace of an “America First” message helped build up voices on the right who were openly critical of US entanglements abroad, including support for Israel. And his removal of guardrails around extremist speech on the right helped pave the way for more openly antisemitic figures, which has created new tensions within the coalition.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">All of these issues have been coming to a head in recent weeks, and the Iran war is likely to be a catalyst for even more tough discussions.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Emblematic of this crack-up is the case of Carrie Prejean Boller, a former model and beauty pageant contestant who converted to Catholicism last year. She sat on the White House’s Religious Liberty Commission until a few weeks ago, when, <a href="https://x.com/CarriePrejean1/status/2032130512043888785?s=20">she claims</a>, she was booted for criticizing the Israeli government’s treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, for not being supportive enough of Israel, and for defending her “deeply held” Catholic beliefs that Israel is not a unique nation that fulfills Biblical prophecies.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Prejean Boller’s ouster ended up an inciting event that blew open underlying tensions among right-wing Christian thinkers and influencers —&nbsp;many of whom already are critical of Israel and involved in feuds with other conservative commentators and influencers.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In an open letter to Trump, Prejean Boller argued that Trump, in advancing this war and removing her from the commission, was betraying Catholics who joined his political coalition and believed in his America First pledges. “Most Catholics who voted for you feel the exact same way. Why have you betrayed us?” she wrote.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Those anti-Israel views, which Prejean Boller shared at commission meetings and online, sparked condemnation from many familiar voices within the right: the commentator Mark Levin, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who chairs the commission, the writer Seth Dillon of the Christian satirical outlet Babylon Bee, and commentators aligned with Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire network. Many of her critics argued she had crossed the line into antisemitism, which she denied, by <a href="https://www.wsj.com/opinion/carrie-prejean-boller-religious-liberty-commission-white-house-israel-palestine-85bbbba8">making comments</a> focusing on Jews’ role in crucifying Jesus and <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/carrie-prejean-boller-religious-liberty/685987/">defending Candace Owens</a>, a popular influencer who has <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/22/media/candace-owen-out-ben-shapiro-daily-wire-anti-semitism">increasingly</a> <a href="https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-881052">denigrated</a> Jews in conspiratorial terms.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But she also drew support from an emerging set of influential, self-described Catholic voices: controversial figures like Owens, Megyn Kelly, and antisemitic podcaster <a href="https://x.com/FracturedLight0/status/2024979218073821450?s=20">Nick Fuentes</a>; as well as Israel-critical, <a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/episodes/they-want-to-take-me-out-catholic-attacked-by-zionists">conservative Catholic bloggers</a> and writers. Carlson, who was raised Episcopalian, brought Prejean Boller onto his show to talk about her removal from the religious liberty commission.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There is a theological component to this dispute. The predominant view on the right, of evangelical Protestants like Huckabee and some nondenominational churches, is a form of “Christian Zionism” rooted in “dispensationalism”: the belief in supporting the modern state of Israel as the biblically prophesied “Israel,” and a prerequisite for the final period of human history in which Jesus Christ returns and the Rapture happens.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Carlson, Prejean Boller, and other Israel-critical MAGA Catholics and Protestant Christians do <em>not </em>believe this, and hold views that distinguish between the modern state of Israel and the spiritual “Israel” of the Bible. Some traditionalist and MAGA Catholics have also pushed a more radical, though historic, interpretation of Christians being the “new Israel,” of God forming a new covenant with a new chosen people that “supercedes” or replaces God’s relationship with the Jewish people from the Old Testament.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In theological terms, this view is called “<a href="https://firstthings.com/supersessionism-hard-and-soft/">supersessionism</a>” —&nbsp;and though it was the common view of Catholics up until the 20th century, it has also been blamed for contributing to antisemitism and worsening relationships between Jewish and Christian peoples. Notably, supersessionism <em>is not</em> the view of the modern Church. The Second Vatican Council clarified that the Church does not blame Jewish people for the death of Christ, condemned antisemitism as a sin, and settled that the Jewish people <em>do </em>have a unique relationship with God, separate from the Catholic Church’s role.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But there’s also a raw politics element to the fight —&nbsp;especially surrounding the next presidential election and which figures will lead the party after Trump. Which is how the Prejean Boller story entered political overdrive when a leading potential contender weighed in.&nbsp;</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none"><strong>The GOP’s religious fights are also a proxy war for power&nbsp;</strong></h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, a Southern Baptist whose father is an evangelical preacher, has been <a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/ted-cruz-to-jewish-republicans-antisemitism-is-an-existential-crisis-in-our-party/">picking fights for months</a> with the emerging wing of Israel critics on the right —&nbsp;including Carlson —&nbsp;and delivering speeches warning Republican donors and leaders to step in.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">So naturally, he wanted to take a stance on the Prejean Boller dispute. In this case, he did it by sharing an <a href="https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/2029681200189636717?">essay</a> from an anonymous MAGA influencer who goes by “Insurrection Barbie” on X. “READ every word of this. It’s the best &amp; most comprehensive explanation of what we&#8217;re fighting,” Cruz wrote.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The author, like Cruz, complained that the new right was attacking the evangelical pro-Israel consensus. But the deeper fear it raised was “who controls the ideological and theological DNA of the Republican Party’s base.” “Insurrection Barbie” warned of a conspiracy by a small number of elite “Catholic integralists&#8221; and traditionalist Catholics to take over the party by gaining control of its institutions, undermining evangelical theology, and convincing rank-and-file Trump voters to follow along. If nothing was done, the author warned, the party’s activist base would soon become “a coalition dominated by ethnically and religiously defined Catholic and Orthodox nationalism,” with evangelicals relegated to junior status.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Among the accused: Fuentes, Owens, MAGA icon Steve Bannon (“He controls the media infrastructure”), and Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts (a “Cowboy Catholic”). But the most important name, who he called “the wild card in this drama” was JD Vance, a conservative Catholic with close ties to the anti-Israel right who has tried to bridge the gap between the party’s warring factions. The author was still hopeful Vance might side with the pro-Israel evangelicals.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Cruz’s decision to share the post sparked immediate backlash from conservative and MAGA Catholic commentators and activists who called it an “<a href="https://x.com/ambermarieduke/status/2033541974783873143?s=20">anti-Catholic screed</a>,” and “<a href="https://x.com/GabeGuidarini/status/2033546252739108922?s=20">ugly, archaic anti-Catholic resentment</a>” that “<a href="https://x.com/GabeGuidarini/status/2033555150804013363?s=20">risks burning the Trump coalition down</a>.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But it also spoke to the power battles looming over the party in the immediate post-Trump era. Cruz, Carlson, and Vance have all widely been discussed as presidential candidates in 2028 or beyond. <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/01/10/steve-bannon-2028-campaign-maga">Bannon has also been reportedly weighing a run</a>. Another major potential contender not mentioned in the essay, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, is a Catholic pro-Israel hawk with a mixed <a href="https://abcnews.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/sen-marco-rubio-talks-about-his-mormon-childhood">religious</a> <a href="https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/five-faith-facts-about-marco-rubio-once-catholic-always-catholic">background.</a></p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“There’s no doubt that Ted Cruz and the author are using that article to try and subtly discredit the vice president, a notable Catholic, who Cruz probably wants to challenge for the 2028 Presidential nomination,” Gabe Guidarini, the chair of the Ohio College Republican Federation and a former president of the College Republicans of America, told me. “Cruz knows Trump’s victory over him in 2016 was driven by Catholics, and he probably holds some resentment over it.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Guidarini was among those critical of Cruz’s post. But he also emphasized that, for now, these seem to be elite-level and online feuds not materializing on the ground as they are on social media. “You get some key online players who align a certain way based on niche perceptions of group interest,” Guidarini said. “But it bubbles to the surface sometimes in election [years].”</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading has-text-align-none"><strong>The specter of antisemitism, as Catholic influencers squabble</strong></h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But the Republican Party isn’t the only institution grappling with this issue. These differing views over what “Israel” means in theological terms have now, in turn, sparked an internal Catholic debate, centered on how to handle rising antisemitism in the US while being critical of Israel.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Since Prejean Boller came to my attention in early February, I’ve been fascinated by her willingness to speak for <em>all</em> Catholics (again, she converted last year), to speak authoritatively about what the Catholic Church teaches, and, more recently, to confront leading conservative Catholic prelates for not supporting her in her fight against the White House commission, and its evangelical leaders. The Catholic Church is politically diverse, and even among its right-leaning adherents there is a <em>wide </em>mix of perspectives, including plenty of Catholic Republicans with strong pro-Israel views, or who support confronting Iran.&nbsp;</p>

<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p>In the long run, these tensions will likely escalate if the war drags out and ends up hurting the Republican coalition in midterm elections. </p></blockquote></figure>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Nor has her claim to represent Catholics writ large gone unnoticed. What has been most surprising, to me and to Catholic thinkers I’ve spoken with, is how much turmoil her spat, and some MAGA Catholics’ pushing of supersessionism, is beginning to cause within the Catholic Church.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The US Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the church in the US, weighed in this month, with a <a href="https://x.com/USCCB/status/2034412658758226280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2034443390427840810%7Ctwgr%5E9c3e7f98142ab656d18a3bd1abba4ed18b926fec%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncronline.org%2Fnews%2Fmaga-followers-have-new-enemy-traditionalist-catholics">video message condemning antisemitism</a> and reasserting the Church’s teachings on religious liberty. Notably, it was delivered by a leading traditionalist voice in the American clergy — the Archbishop of Portland, Oregon, Alexander Sample. His message was echoed, along with more pointed rebukes of Prejean Boller and her wing of conservative Catholics, by two other highly respected Catholic leaders online: <a href="https://x.com/BishopBarron/status/2035100582550086080?s=20">Bishop Robert Barron</a> and <a href="https://x.com/CardinalDolan/status/2036456893682512353?s=20">Cardinal Timothy Dolan</a>, themselves no political progressives.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Prejean Boller, some traditionalist Catholics (unhappy with the Church’s more progressive tilt since Vatican II), and zealous young converts are forcing American church leaders to reckon with this challenge, the Catholic theologian and author Massimo Faggioli, a professor in ecclesiology at the Loyola Institute at Trinity College Dublin, told me.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Both those who are supporting the alliance between Trump and Israel, and those who say, ‘I’m a Catholic, and therefore I have to be against Zionism’ are [pushing] very dangerously formulated frameworks,” he told me. “These people are being really clumsy…it’s incredibly inflammatory and it ignores the incredible care with which the Catholic Church has talked about these issues so far.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In addition to the theological debate, this conversation also touches on some painful history that may be encouraging leaders to step in more aggressively. The Church has a <a href="https://academic.oup.com/ehr/article-abstract/129/538/763/460333">long and unfortunate relationship</a> with antisemitism that took decades to repair through the help of a generation of converts <a href="https://forward.com/opinion/159955/converts-who-changed-the-church/">beginning in the 1930s</a>. That quest to vanquish antisemitism reached its zenith after Vatican II in 1965 with the publication of Nostra Aetate, a church document that rejected the view of Jewish people as “rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Faggioli told me that, in turn, these rifts on the American right are reopening old wounds and forcing the Church to confront the ambiguity with which it has approached its <a href="https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/israel-and-the-church">relationship with modern Israel</a>, where <a href="https://www.ewtnnews.com/world/middle-east/pope-francis-urges-two-state-solution-in-first-remarks-to-israel">successive popes</a> have called for a two-state solution, hold to an anti-war doctrine, and have pursued a middle way between dispensationalism and supersessionism, but try not to make too news.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“There’s something new happening now. I’m terrified by the risk that this is bringing back the monster of anti-Judaism on which the Catholic Church tried very hard to liberate itself from,” Faggioli told me. “These so-called heroes that are challenging the Zionist orthodoxy of American conservatives — they might look like those who want to help the victims of certain policies in the Middle East, but at the real risk of bringing back one of the worst things that we thought we had defeated.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">What comes immediately next may depend on how this war proceeds. But in the long run, these tensions will likely escalate if the war drags out and ends up hurting the Republican coalition in midterm elections. For now, it’s unclear how much of this remains an elite intellectual debate and how much it may filter its way down to the faithful. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But we may also only be seeing an initial preview right now of factional fights that will end up playing out in the 2028 presidential primaries, with religion and belief as a point of conflict. The field of likely contenders is religious and politically at the center of these fights.&nbsp; And the pro-Israel consensus on the right looks more fragile than ever.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[A high-stakes Texas primary exposed the Democratic Party’s fault lines]]></title>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[One thing was clear before James Talarico’s win over Rep. Jasmine Crockett in the Texas Senate Democratic primary Tuesday night. This contest wouldn’t be about policy or ideology; it would be a choice between two very different types of “fighters,” decided along racially polarized lines.&#160; Talarico, a state representative and seminarian, offered grit paired with [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<img alt="State Representative James Talarico, a Democrat from Texas and US Senate candidate, speaks during a &quot;Take Back Texas&quot; campaign event. A crowd waving signs and flags is in front of him, as a large banner reading “Talarico for Texas” flanks him from behind." data-caption="State Representative James Talarico, a Democrat from Texas and US Senate candidate, speaks during a &quot;Take Back Texas&quot; campaign event at Stable Hall in San Antonio, Texas, on Sunday, March 1, 2026. | Christopher Lee / Bloomberg via Getty Images" data-portal-copyright="Christopher Lee / Bloomberg via Getty Images" data-has-syndication-rights="1" src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/03/gettyimages-2263755134.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" />
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	State Representative James Talarico, a Democrat from Texas and US Senate candidate, speaks during a "Take Back Texas" campaign event at Stable Hall in San Antonio, Texas, on Sunday, March 1, 2026. | Christopher Lee / Bloomberg via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">One thing was clear before James Talarico’s win over Rep. Jasmine Crockett in the Texas Senate Democratic primary Tuesday night. This contest wouldn’t be about policy or ideology; it would be a choice between two very different types of “fighters,” decided along racially polarized lines.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Talarico, a state representative and seminarian, offered <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/480894/james-talarico-jasmine-crockett-faith-love-healing-texas-voters-senate-primary-democratic-religion-left">grit paired with Christian compassion</a> — a welcoming message to frustrated moderates and disappointed Republicans that pinned the blame for the country’s problems on The System.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That contrasted with Crockett’s fiery campaign of confrontation — of pinning the blame on Donald Trump and Republicans. Crockett believed in mobilizing the base; Talarico pitched expanding the tent.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">A racially divided Democratic electorate made this decision. Talarico’s victory came with support from white voters, particularly college-educated white voters, and with a boost from Latinos in Texas, the nation’s newest swing voters. Crockett’s coalition, meanwhile, counted on huge margins among Black voters to offset her weaker white and Latino support.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This division leaves Talarico with a crucial task in the next eight months: building trust with Black voters, winning back more moderate Latino voters, and making inroads with conservative white voters, who still make up the lion’s share of the Texas electorate. It also reveals tensions for Democrats nationally as they head into primary season: both the push and pull between more college-educated white voters in their coalition and more working-class Black voters, with the additional wild card of Latino voters.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">A race decided along racial lines</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For most of the primary contest, style was the big difference between Talarico and Crockett’s campaigns. They both occupied similar spots on the ideological spectrum, didn&#8217;t differ much on substance, but campaigned very differently.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Early on, Crockett faced criticism for arguing that she didn’t believe she had to win over Trump supporters in order to win a general election. “(Texas) Democrats have tried to talk to every Republican they can to try and get them to come over here. It hasn’t worked,” she argued <a href="https://x.com/RyanChandlerTV/status/2028626344225947654?s=20">even on the last day of campaigning</a>. “If we just get the base to turn out, we can win.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Her campaign&#8217;s theory was to double down on Black voters, particularly through outreach at Black churches, and appeal to progressive or traditionally Democratic Latino voters.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Talarico, meanwhile, was criticized for not being able to hold strong support among Black Texans, and relying on white Democrats as his base. And in the closing weeks of the contest, racial identity became a bigger flash point.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Crockett accused Talarico of boosting ads that were “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lzQlVuxhkm4">straight up racist</a>,” and called out “<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/jasmine-crockett-texas-senate-primary">dog whistles</a>” from those questioning her electability. Meanwhile, allies like former Rep. Colin Allred, the 2024 Senate nominee, blasted Talarico for allegedly referring to him in private as a “<a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/02/texas-us-senate-democratic-primary-colin-allred-james-talarico-mediocre-black-man-tiktok/">mediocre Black man</a>,” an accusation that Talarico strenuously denied.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Ahead of Tuesday night, the few public polls released showed anything from a tied race to a double-digit lead for either candidate. But aggregates of polls did confirm these racial trends. Talarico enjoyed double-digit support from white Democrats — a more than 20-point margin per the Democratic strategist <a href="https://x.com/admcrlsn/status/2028635748602122571/photo/1">Adam Carlson’s crosstab aggregator</a>&nbsp;— and he seemed to gain with these voters as Election Day neared. Crockett, meanwhile, was sweeping the Black vote, holding a 72-point margin in the aggregate.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That left a big open question about how Latino voters would swing. Those polls showed Talarico with a modest 8-point advantage,&nbsp;but didn’t show a sharp break in favor of either candidate.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">On Election Day, both candidates’ bases of support bore the polls <a href="https://x.com/VoteHub/status/2029006466665898136?s=20">out</a>: Talarico had the highest margins around his home district of Austin, a wealthier, whiter, and more college-educated urban center. He also made big inroads with <a href="https://x.com/maxtmcc/status/2029009543645024634?s=20">white college-educated voters</a> in the Houston area. Crockett, meanwhile, was buoyed by voters in her home district in the Dallas area, and in Houston — the two parts of the state where, combined, more than half of Black Texans live. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Complicating all of this was a familiar enemy: voter suppression. Reports came in throughout the day of voters being turned away from voting booths because of changes to how the state conducted its elections, particularly in the <a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/elections/2026/03/03/were-seeing-chaos-hundreds-turned-away-at-dallas-county-polls-amid-switch-to-precincts/">Dallas</a> area. Republicans decided to hold separate primary contests this year from Democrats, requiring a switch to precinct-based voting instead of countywide voting — meaning many voters went to the wrong polling place. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But the real surprise in the night came from Latino voters, as vote in the parts of Texas with larger Latino populations proved decisive. In the Rio Grande Valley, in the San Antonio area, in border counties, and in <a href="https://x.com/ZacharyDonnini/status/2029013168500928661?s=20">Hispanic parts</a> of Houston, Latino-dominated electorates voted heavily for Talarico. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Because of this level of Latino support, the final picture of the Texas map may end up being a sharply polarized picture: of strong support for Crockett in the east of the state, but Talarico support everywhere else.   </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“This is a unique moment because of the racial background of the candidates. There was no Latino candidate — that would’ve changed things — and race was injected as a strategy,” longtime Latino vote strategist Mike Madrid told me. “It’s undeniable that [the Crockett campaign and its surrogates] were saying we need minority voters to vote as a bloc here to get out of this primary.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Instead, Madrid told me, Latino voters continued to buck expectations, not easily fitting into the model of “minority voters” or responding to appeals to solidarity as “voters of color.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Even after 2020 and 2024, and the rightward shift of Latino voters that came with it, “there&#8217;s still this very dominant belief amongst national Democrats, certainly the elites and elected class, and certainly within Black power structures, that if you’re not white, you&#8217;re somehow going to vote as a bloc,” Madrid said. The Texas results, at least, suggest that “you can’t understand what’s happening if you look through a traditional model of minority voting behavior.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Talarico now faces the challenge of applying his theory of expanding the tent before the general election, where he is likely to face ultra-MAGA-loyalist and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who will head to a run-off against incumbent Texas Sen. John Cornyn. Polls of a theoretical Talarico-Paxton matchup before the primary showed a real race —&nbsp;something that would be a bit of a novelty in the state. Trump won Texas by 14 points in 2024 —&nbsp;improving his margins in part because Latino voters continued to abandon Democrats.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Now, national polls suggest this Latino support might be shifting away from Trump and Republicans again — creating a new proving ground for Talarico’s campaign strategy. And if his model of voter outreach proves itself, Democrats might actually have a shot at the tantalizing dream of turning Texas blue.</p>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[Tuesday night will deliver much more than the conclusion of the first round of voting in the feisty Texas Democratic Senate primary. It brings with it the first major opportunity to take stock of lessons ahead of the 2026 midterms, about what kind of fighter Democratic voters are looking for and what kind of message [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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	Texas state Rep. James Talarico, D-Austin, speaks to the crowd during a Stop ICE Rally in East Austin, January 31, 2026. | Sara Diggins/The Austin American-Statesman via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">Tuesday night will deliver much more than the conclusion of the first round of voting in the feisty Texas Democratic Senate primary. It brings with it the first major opportunity to take stock of lessons ahead of the 2026 midterms, about what kind of fighter Democratic voters are looking for and what kind of message will motivate them to turn out.</p>

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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Key takeaways</h2>



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<li>The Texas Senate Democratic primary features two candidates employing very different appeals to primary voters.</li>



<li>One of those candidates, James Talarico, has made appeals to faith and religion a core part of that pitch: a message of healing and radical love.</li>



<li>There may be limits to just how much Democratic primary voters want to hear about this when they’re also calling for more “fight” from their candidates.</li>



<li>Still, the race may have lessons about how Democrats can make inroads with religious voters, and how their candidates can talk about faith to be more competitive in the future.</li>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">But perhaps more interestingly, the primary race has elevated another question: What the role of religion should be, and that of candidates talking about their faith, in the political landscape of 2026.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Both Senate candidates, state Rep. James Talarico and <a href="https://www.vox.com/podcasts/478396/jasmine-crockett-interview-senate-talarico-texas-today-explained">US Rep. Jasmine Crockett</a>, have relied on religion, churches, and faith-based messaging to make their pitch to Democratic primary voters. But Talarico’s brand of compassionate progressive Christianity, wedded to a populist economic message, has attracted the most attention in and out of the state as a core feature of his campaign. His pitch is a message of radical love, of healing political divisions, and of welcoming Americans who might not be traditional Democrats into a big-tent political coalition.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“In my faith, love is the strongest force in the universe,” the Presbyterian pastor-in-training would <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JamesTalaricoTX/videos/love-is-the-strongest-force-in-the-universe/893199233610267/">say</a> on the campaign trail. He’d <a href="https://time.com/7381394/james-talarico-jasmine-crockett-texas-primary-democrats/">tell</a> reporters that “politics is just another word for how we treat our neighbors” and that his <a href="https://jamestalarico.com/issue/freedom-family-faith/">campaign platform</a> would synthesize faith, love and politics: “You can’t stand for faith and then warp and weaponize religion to hurt our neighbors.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Talarico’s case, that “a campaign based on love is more durable than one based on fear,” sounds novel — it was captivating enough to win plaudits from Joe Rogan, Stephen Colbert, and Ezra Klein.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But it faces a strong headwind in today’s political environment. Democratic primary voters in Texas and across the country also desire more fire, confrontation, and righteous anger from their candidates. Many have been drawn to candidates —&nbsp;like Crockett in Texas, and California Gov. Gavin Newsom in early presidential polling — with a message that’s often <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/02/texas-senate-democratic-primary-talarico-crockett/686154/">ruder</a>, <a href="https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4677117-jasmine-crockett-trademark-bleach-blonde-bad-built-butch-body-marjorie-taylor-greene/">cruder</a>, and adapted to meet the far less pious Donald Trump on his own terms, without any mercy, Christian or otherwise.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“Politics has changed. And one thing that the Democrats have struggled with is that they continue to be viewed as the doormat for the Republicans,” Crockett <a href="https://www.vox.com/podcasts/478396/jasmine-crockett-interview-senate-talarico-texas-today-explained">told my colleague Astead Herndon</a> last month. “[Voters] continue to say, ‘Where’s the opposition? Where’s the fight?’”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That’s the kind of “fighter” spirit that has been simmering among Democrats for the last year. And it’s revealing a tension for Democrats who might want to take lessons from Talarico, might want to replicate his message of hope and faith, and feel a moral and political imperative to take back ground <a href="https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-faith/religious-left-religious-right/">ceded to the religious right</a>, especially as a resurgent religious left <a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/206055/transcript-religious-left-leader-ice-resistance">begins to take shape</a>.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">A tension in the base</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The role of religion in the Democratic Party serves as a bit of a proxy for some bigger existential questions it faces. After 2024, the party was struggling with multiple problems. It had lost more culturally conservative voters of all races, it had lost its working-class economic appeal after rampant inflation under President Joe Biden, and it had lost its edge among anti-system voters who wanted politicians who could challenge the existing status quo.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In that context, Talarico, seemed like a godsend to some: a religious progressive who could code as a cultural moderate on a <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/07/19/james-talarico-texas-democrat-joe-rogan-interview-00441989">manosphere podcast</a> while offering a faith-based twist on the party’s message of taxing the rich and helping the poor.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It also might not have hurt that he was a white man in an election cycle after many Democrats blamed sexism and racism for undermining Kamala Harris’s message to voters. He seemed to demonstrate how an increasingly secular Democratic voting base might be able to tolerate — or even welcome — religious beliefs and messaging.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Talarico himself hasn’t compromised on the cultural issues that Democratic voters still care about —&nbsp;he’s defended abortion access, LGBTQ rights, and gun control using biblical reasoning. But this gray area of championing populist economics over culture wars, one which Democrats have been debating for at least the last year, might offer some cover for other religious Democratic candidates.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Catholic liberals, for example, talk about the poor, the liberal Catholic writer Christopher Hale, who helped lead faith-based outreach during President Barack Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign, told me recently, and church leaders have been prioritizing “a human-first” message more recently, just as other Protestant, non-denominational, and non-Christian faith communities have been championing in the Trump era. “This [message] tends to have more sway in the democratic socialist, and the economic populist movements of the Democratic Party,” Hale explained.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Talarico has employed just this kind of pitch on the campaign trail: advocating more separation of church and state, grounding his anti-corruption, anti-elite, and anti-establishment critiques of both parties in the principle of caring for the least well-off. “The biggest divide in America is not left versus right. It&#8217;s top versus bottom,” he would say in one of his most <a href="https://www.facebook.com/JamesTalaricoTX/videos/something-is-happening-in-texas/2355996674873145/">popular stump lines</a>. “Billionaires want us looking left and right at each other instead of looking up at them.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Still, in the primary, at least, there are structural limits to how far this kind of message will go. While the state is dominated by conservatives and moderates, the Democratic electorate is different: more liberal, more diverse, and more hungry for a fighter. Each of those are sources of strength for Crockett, who benefited from a huge name recognition advantage in the contest and support from one of the largest cohorts of religious Democrats: Black voters. And while Talarico’s message might resonate with a future general-election electorate, in the primary, this religious pitch might have a limited audience.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“It’s not clear from the data that his faith, and willingness to speak about it earns him a direct advantage, at least in the only contest that matters right now, the upcoming March 3rd Primary,” authors from the University of Texas at Austin’s Texas Politics Project research center <a href="https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/blog/the-audience-s-for-james-talarico-s-progressive-christianity-in-the-democratic-primary-2">concluded</a> when analyzing voter trends and views of the candidates based on religious identification in February.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Instead, they theorized that Talarico’s religious appeals might actually resonate more with secular, non-religious voters who are making calculations about electability in the general election. In other words, supporters might be less interested in hearing Bible verses themselves, and more interested in whether some imagined swing voter cares instead.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Along those lines, some Crockett supporters have insinuated that Talarico’s Democratic backers are treating him as more electable because of his race, rather than because of any novel religious appeal. “You are not saving religion for the Democratic Party or the left,” former Rep. Colin Allred, who dropped out of the Senate race earlier and recently endorsed Crockett, said in a video <a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/02/texas-us-senate-democratic-primary-colin-allred-james-talarico-mediocre-black-man-tiktok/">slamming Talarico’s campaign</a>. “We already have <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/30/us/politics/raphael-warnock-religion-campaign.html">Senator Reverend Dr. Raphael Warnock</a> for that. We don’t need you. You’re not saying anything unique.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And outside the party, Christian conservatives see Talarico as flattering Democrats by feeding them an unrepresentative view of their faith that just happens to align with progressive preferences on every social issue and <a href="https://x.com/EWErickson/status/2024144042691301769">asks them to sacrifice nothing</a> to reconcile the Bible with partisan politics.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In addition to Talarico’s stances on transgender rights (“<a href="https://www.fox7austin.com/news/james-talarico-says-atheists-more-christ-like-than-christian-colleagues">God is nonbinary</a>,” he said in a 2021 floor speech) and abortion (“<a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/16/james-talarico-texas-senate-democrat-religion-christianity-viral/">Creation has to be done with consent,</a>” he told Rogan, citing the story of Mary), he drew howls from some Christian commentators for telling Ezra Klein on a podcast that other religions point to the “same truth” as Christianity when asked whether he believed his faith was truer than others. There are also sectarian differences: Talarico is a mainline Protestant, while the core of the <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/party-identification-among-religious-groups-and-religiously-unaffiliated-voters/">Republican Party is evangelical</a>.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">But Democrats have only gotten less religious over the last few years</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Complicating this all is the fact that while there may be a resurgence of the religious left in America, it’s happening as the party’s coalition, and its voters, get <em>less </em>religious overall.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">I’ve covered the first phenomenon over the last year: how Trump’s threats to the social safety net, his prioritization of the rich, his persecution of immigrants, and his administration’s embrace of Christian nationalist rhetoric have <a href="https://www.vox.com/life/478653/pope-leo-immigration-resistance-trump-maga-catholic-christian-nationalism-authoritarianism">inspired</a> a <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/476007/ice-minnesota-religious-priest-pastor-faith-immigration-deportation-protest-st-paul-minneapolis-catholic-evangelical">counter-movement</a> among progressive-minded <a href="https://www.vox.com/life/470073/pope-leo-liberal-socialist-conservative-maga-ai-immigration-deportations">religious</a> Americans.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The second phenomenon is often overlooked in talk about Democrats and religion: while elected Democrats and party leaders might feel that there is an imperative to tap into this energy and make inroads with a religious electorate that the right has seized, their share of religious voters has declined significantly. Consider <a href="https://x.com/ryanburge/status/2026732518947389618">this calculation</a> by the religion researcher Ryan Burge: 71 percent of Obama’s winning coalition in 2008 held some kind of religious faith. When Harris lost in 2024, that share had shrunk to 55 percent.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That shifting coalition has <a href="https://goodauthority.org/news/secular-democrats-are-on-the-rise/">primarily hurt Democrats</a> in general elections: political researchers have found time and again that secular, non-religious voters take more liberal positions on issues than religious voters. And that’s created a wedge between secular progressive voters and more religious and moderate nonwhite voters, who swung toward Republicans in 2024, <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/459240/latino-voters-democrat-california-republican-texas-redistrict-gerrymander-midterm-realignment-vote">including in Texas</a>.“You can see the problem for Democrats,” the political writer John Halpin <a href="https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-demise-of-religion-among-democrats">wrote in December</a>. “Since more than two-thirds of U.S. voters overall remain Christian, the increasingly non-Christian and secular Democratic Party remains out of touch with a huge chunk of Americans.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This ongoing party shift toward secularism and social liberalism could make it harder for Democrats to welcome religious candidates who perhaps stray further on social policy than Talarico in more red-leaning districts and states. It was not long ago that the party included a significant contingent of Catholic politicians who were moderate to conservative on abortion, for example, a group that <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/when-biden-was-pro-life/">once included Joe Biden</a>.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Democrats counting on faith may pick up lessons from Texas</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This tension in coalitions is what Talarico’s campaign has so far managed to balance. He’s not alone, though, and a successful primary could help inspire others to talk and invoke faith more in trying to navigate the post-Trump political environment.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, for example, has made his Christian faith a <a href="https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/kentucky-governor-andy-beshear-on-faith-and-democratic-priorities/673614">central part of his commentary</a> as he tests the waters for a 2028 presidential run. He made headlines a few years ago, for example, when he vetoed anti-LGBTQ legislation in his state by invoking his Christianity: “My faith teaches me that everyone is a child of God, deserving of love.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And something of a trend is developing down-ballot: of other Democratic candidates <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/how-some-democrats-are-using-scripture-try-reach-christian-voters-us-midterms-2026-02-17/">invoking scripture</a> and biblical teachings in trying to win over Christian voters, and of the party finding their latest “<a href="https://www.ms.now/news/democrats-new-secret-weapon-2026-midterms-pastors">secret weapon</a>”: seminarians and pastors.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Democrats recruiting candidates to run this year know that their party must be competitive in more places around the country in order to maximize their odds at winning control of at least one house of Congress, to set up a pipeline to be competitive in the future, and to offer an alternative to growing Christian nationalist sentiment on the right.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But they also employ a note of caution here: “People want digestible stories… [of] ‘people of faith are now running as Democrats.’ I don&#8217;t think it’s that simple,” Rep. Morgan McGarvey of Kentucky, one of the House Democrats leading candidate recruitment this year, told me. “It’s more individual, more district and area specific. This is not a template that someone can go just have.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">McGarvey, a practicing Presbyterian, speaks about the intersection of faith and politics through a similar framework of radical Christian love as do Beshear and Talarico — “We want everybody to have health care, we want everybody to be able to find affordable housing, we want everybody to have a shot at the American dream…That’s that notion of Christian love that we can fight to get.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">If Talarico succeeds on Tuesday, prepare to hear a lot more of this pitch in Texas and across the country. McGarvey said that authenticity will be key here: “It can’t be a staffer writing you a line from the Bible to say. It’s got to be something that you feel and that you live and that is a part of your existence.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But if these candidates succeed at getting this across, Democrats may end up seeing electoral payoff. At the very least, regardless of who wins this Texas primary, Talarico will have demonstrated that Democrats should not be afraid to talk about faith and engage in a new form of religious battle for the Trump era.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Trump’s Iran war is uniting a strange new anti-war alliance]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.vox.com/politics/481208/trump-iran-war-podcast-manosphere-influencer-maga-america-first-war-neocon" />
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			<updated>2026-03-01T17:09:49-05:00</updated>
			<published>2026-03-02T06:30:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[About six months ago, I noted an interesting divide among the right-leaning or politics-adjacent podcasters and influencers who helped get Donald Trump reelected. They were either shutting up about politics, bending over backward to justify his policies, or citing a couple of issues — ICE and the Epstein files — as red lines causing them to [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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	A monitor plays footage of President Donald Trump announcing US and Israeli strikes against Iran in the James Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House in Washington, DC, on February 28, 2026. | Aaron Schwartz/Bloomberg via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">About six months ago, I noted <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/459080/podcast-men-trump-rogan-theo-von-andrew-schulz-paul-adin-ross-nelkcast-bros">an interesting divide</a> among the right-leaning or politics-adjacent podcasters and influencers who helped get Donald Trump reelected. They were either shutting up about politics, bending over backward to justify his policies, or citing a couple of issues — ICE and the Epstein files — as red lines causing them to turn on him.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">What united them all was a loss of enthusiasm for him: not really championing him the way they did when they gave him a platform during the 2024 campaign season. That’s why I was especially curious to see how this MAGA-manosphere would process yet another breach of their trust, after the joint American-Israeli attacks on Iran that took out Iran&#8217;s senior leadership this weekend. This regional conflict has already cost us three American lives, let alone the billions of dollars funding the American military presence in the region.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">As someone who has been following this universe of yappers and influencers for some time, I was expecting universal outrage — ending foreign entanglements and intervention abroad, in favor of investment and economic growth at home, were central to this media ecosystem&#8217;s support of Trump and distrust of Democrats. They fully bought into the idea of “<a href="https://eoinhiggins.substack.com/p/donald-the-dove">Donald the Dove</a>,” who spent years railing against neoconservatives, Middle East involvement, and the Democratic Party&#8217;s embrace of hawkish military action since the turn of the century.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Instead, what I&#8217;ve been seeing has surprised me: disparate reactions across the alternative media ecosystem that suggest, at least at the elite level, another splintering of the Trump coalition — though not one as straightforward as the pod bros and MAGA influencers simply turning on Trump.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">What&#8217;s emerged is a collection of strange bedfellows: Some anti-war MAGA influencers have turned into foreign policy hawks, some MAGA influencers are speaking out about the action, and the pod bros seem to be reserving their commentary until they can see how this unfolds and get in front of microphones.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">An unexpected MAGA influencer breakup is underway</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Already, plenty of media reports suggest that Trump is facing “<a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-melts-down-over-iran-war-no-one-voted-for/">a furious MAGA backlash</a>,” that his <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/maga-reaction-donald-trump-iran-attack-war">base is revolting</a>, and that “<a href="https://www.thewrap.com/media-platforms/politics/maga-stalwarts-mtg-tucker-carlson-trump-netanyahus-iran-attack/">MAGA stalwarts</a>” are turning on him over the Iran attacks. The early polling, at least, indicates that these attacks are inspiring some caution among everyday Trump supporters. But at the elite and influencer level, the picture is a little more muddled.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Yes, Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene are condemning this military action and arguing that it’s another blatant betrayal of “America First” principles by the president. But that’s <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/417085/trump-kooky-tucker-carlson-iran-israel">not new</a> —&nbsp;they’ve been <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/469584/liberal-marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-feud-epstein-files-vote-congress-release">sounding that beat</a> for the <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/473805/marjorie-taylor-greene-requiem-trump-maga-retirement-resign-gop-republican-split">last four months at least</a>, since both began to criticize not just the Trump administration, but Trump himself more forcefully around his foreign policy and his refusal to be transparent about the Epstein files.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Joining them this time around are an interesting collection of MAGA and manosphere figures: Andrew Tate, the misogynistic influencer who was accused of sex trafficking in Romania, also denounced the actions, <a href="https://x.com/Cobratate/status/2027637038162247752?s=20">tweeting,</a> “NOBODY WANTS THIS WAR.” Popular pro-Trump Twitter accounts, like the <a href="https://x.com/hodgetwins/status/2028170262001172686?s=20">Hodge Twins</a>, are highlighting Israel’s role in getting America involved, saying, they “don’t care if we lose all our followers over this war we won’t stay quiet about Americans getting sent to die for Israel.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">More radical figures, such as <a href="https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/2027776063942603192?s=20">Candace Owens</a> and <a href="https://x.com/AFpost/status/2027937561222779328?s=20">Nick Fuentes</a>, are condemning the strikes as well. <em>Charlie Kirk Show </em>producer Blake Neff is <a href="https://x.com/BlakeSNeff/status/2027768122091151363?s=20">calling</a> this “extremely depressing” and a reason for “never voting in a national election again.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And even Erik Prince, the mercenary army founder, was skeptical of the attacks while debriefing with Steve Bannon and Pizzagate conspiracist Jack Posobiec. Posobiec himself was <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/28/economic-relief-not-more-war-iran-tests-trump-coalition-ahead-of-midterms-00805670">urging caution</a> over the weekend, telling Politico that “There is a MAGA generational divide on this. Older voters support it, younger voters do not… Gen Z MAGA wants arrests on Epstein, deportations, and economic relief, not more war.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And there’s still the politics-adjacent comedians and podcasters to come, who are likely to weigh in more forcefully starting Monday when they publish their episodes — and who seem primed to rail against this. The comedian Tim Dillon, for example, spent the latter half of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tim-dillon-show/id1135137367?i=1000752097113">his last show before the weekend</a> priming his audience for a war with Iran, sounding depressed and resigned.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“This whole thing is about remaking the Middle East,” he said. “America does not want this war. … We don’t need a war. Unless all those white-collar consultants join the military and go fight and die in Iran, we don&#8217;t need a fucking war in the Middle East. So we can either do something fake, which I&#8217;m for, a pretend show of force, but … it feels like we&#8217;re too far down the line. There&#8217;s a little bit of war fever in Washington, and that it&#8217;s gripped people, and that there&#8217;s an inertia that&#8217;s moving us forward towards this conflict, no matter what we do. And that once we&#8217;re on a path like this, it&#8217;s very hard to completely reverse course.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Comedians like Andrew Schulz and Theo Von have not weighed in; they’re anti-interventionist for the most part and have railed against the last few Trump-led foreign strikes against Iran and in Venezuela. Podcasters Shawn Ryan, Lex Fridman, and Joe Rogan have not commented yet either, but given their past comments, their reactions will probably be lukewarm at best; Ryan has turned sharply on Trump and Republicans over their opposition to the release of the Epstein files, while Rogan has also soured on Trump’s immigration enforcement actions.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And their audiences, too, will probably be demanding analysis. Already, some of the comments on Fridman’s latest episode <a href="https://x.com/RealMikeGivens/status/2028085905483874503?s=20">bemoan his silence</a> on “current events” (the episode, which Fridman promoted on Saturday, was an interview with a musician).</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But Trump still counts support among another part of this alternative media ecosystem: during an emergency show on Saturday, podcaster Patrick Bet-David, himself Iranian-born, tried to walk a careful line between feeling emotional and hopeful about a “free Iran,” and cautious about endorsing full-scale war. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“For Americans that are saying, ‘Pat, but we don&#8217;t want to go to war,’ I get that as well,” he said. “It&#8217;s not an easy thing. It&#8217;s going to be nasty. It&#8217;s going to be ugly. And god-willing, it&#8217;s not going to be something that&#8217;s prolonged. For all the people that are criticizing and saying, ‘What if this thing drags out?’ Fair criticism. I&#8217;m hopeful it goes a few weeks. God-willing, less, as soon as possible to get it done. … But we have to also be realistic and realize that this may not be a popular war that a lot of people want.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This cautious line — “I don&#8217;t want to see another Afghanistan&#8221; — will likely be replicated by other influencers as time passes. But it will also be balanced with a different sentiment Bet-David shared: “I voted for this man to be in a negotiating room, having access to the information and make the decisions based on his instinct. And I give this man a lot of credit for having the courage to do what a lot of presidents couldn&#8217;t do.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For now, there is a whole cohort of anti-war MAGA influencers who are pushing that line and staying loyal to Trump. One Democratic operative kindly <a href="https://x.com/MatthewARein/status/2027817983817486605">assembled that list already</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But the next few days will be crucial to this limbo state in the manosphere: additional escalation, more American or civilian casualties, or domestic economic fallout will all help determine whether these divided voices close ranks as they have during previous moments of foreign entanglement in Trump 2.0, or turn more fully against Trump’s position, as they have during moments of domestic crises.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[How Democrats reorganized their State of the Union resistance]]></title>
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			<id>https://www.vox.com/?p=480385</id>
			<updated>2026-02-25T09:33:24-05:00</updated>
			<published>2026-02-25T09:33:06-05:00</published>
			<category scheme="https://www.vox.com" term="Donald Trump" /><category scheme="https://www.vox.com" term="Politics" /><category scheme="https://www.vox.com" term="Trump Administration" />
							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[When President Donald Trump addressed Congress a year ago, the Democrats seemed to be, as the meme would have it, “in disarray.” They were lambasted for their disorganized responses to Trump — remember those little ping-pong paddles?  But things were different this time. The opposition party seemed to be more in array than they’ve been [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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	People hold signs as they attend the "People's State of the Union" at the National Mall in Washington, DC, on February 24, 2026. A group of senators and representatives boycotted the State of the Union by holding their own rally. | Ken Cedeno/AFP via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">When President Donald Trump addressed Congress a year ago, the Democrats seemed to be, as the <a href="https://prospect.org/2021/08/27/altercation-media-always-sees-democrats-in-disarray/">meme</a> would have it, “in disarray.” They <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/402599/democrat-response-trump-address-protest-resistance-message-elissa-slotkin">were lambasted</a> for their disorganized responses to Trump — remember those little <a href="https://nypost.com/2025/03/05/us-news/democrats-mercilessly-mocked-for-protesting-trump-speech-with-paddles-it-is-giving-bingo-sigh/">ping-pong paddles</a>? </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But things were different this time. The opposition party seemed to be more in array than they’ve been in a long time.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In the chamber on Tuesday night, they remained largely silent —&nbsp;save for some heckling from Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan when Trump laid into Somalian immigrants in Minnesota — and did not clap.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But Democrats otherwise had a consistent message: Release the Epstein files. They wore pins to that effect, and brought Epstein survivors and their family members to the House chamber to stare down Trump.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Immigration enforcement and ICE violence was their other major messaging point. To highlight it, Rep. Chuy Garcia of Illinois brought <a href="https://x.com/HQNewsNow/status/2026397476320674041">a survivor of an ICE-involved shooting</a> as his guest. But it was outside the Capitol that the new Democratic resistance was really on display — one that was driven in large part by the left’s rambunctious and growing alternative media ecosystems.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The “People’s State of the Union”</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Democrats and their media allies organized two separate events that would be streamed online ascounter-programming. Among the attendees announced in advance were the expected: politicians like Sens. Ruben Gallego of Arizona, Chris Murphy of Connecticut, and Tina Smith of Minnesota, but also Robert De Niro and Mark Ruffalo — figures intended to appeal to the less politically engaged voters the party had lost in 2024.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The first major counterprogramming event took place in front of the Capitol, on the National Mall. Gathered in 30-degree weather, dozens of Democratic senators and representatives led a three-and-a-half-hour in-person rally dubbed the “People’s State of the Union,” sponsored by the prominent Democratic resistance group MoveOn and broadcast online by the liberal media network MeidasTouch.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The themes were familiar: Epstein, but also affordability, ICE, and tariffs.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Trump “owes us,” the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) declared at the rally, reading off an estimate of how much money the average family is owed in tariff revenue and the cost of tax breaks — the<a href="https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-tariff-refund"> latest rallying cry</a> from Democrats after the Supreme Court struck down Trump’s universal tariffs. “Spare us the speech. Pay up or shut up,” he said.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Fellow CPC member Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois zeroed in on ICE and CBP detentions, reading off the names of those killed by ICE officers or who have died in ICE detention since the start of the year and leading a chant: “Tonight, I ask you to be as loud as you can be and say it with me: We demand justice! We demand justice!”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">These members were joined by Epstein survivors, families affected by Trump’s mass deportations, and Americans struggling financially because of the cost of living, all of whom spoke at the rally. Their speeches were clipped for social media, where MeidasTouch’s accounts reach well over 10 million followers and subscribers across platforms — and anywhere from 20,000 to 50,000 viewers were tuned into the livestream at any given moment.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">By the end of the night, the stream had racked up more than 300,000 views. That’s not nothing, but it is a sign of how even the State of the Union has become a culturally niche event — which raises the value of creating viral and affecting clips that, ideally, will circulate for days to come.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The “State of the Swamp”&nbsp;</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Across the city, meanwhile, another Resistance event attracted Never Trump luminaries and former Republicans, organized by <a href="http://defiance.org">Defiance.org</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This “State of the Swamp” event at the National Press Club was a more humorous gathering. Defiance partnered with the Portland Frog Brigade, an artist-activist group that protested ICE in Oregon last year, and focused on Trump’s abuses of power and corruption through a live rebuttal of Trump’s address. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This time, the media partner was the Democratic-aligned digital news network Courier, which launched in 2019, but <a href="https://www.fortherecord.news/p/celebrating-six-years-of-courier">exploded in growth</a> over the last two years, picking up <a href="https://couriernewsroom.com/news/courier-passes-seven-million-online-subscribers/">2 million followers</a> across its platforms over the last year alone (it now claims to reach <a href="https://www.instagram.com/taramcgowanri/p/DUBWzV2Ee82/">at least 9 million people</a>).</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Speakers here included senators, former TV news anchors, local and state politicians, like the mayors of Chicago and Minneapolis, and stars like De Niro and Tom Arnold. Combined, their online reach exceeds 100 million, the independent politics and media writer Kyle Tharp <a href="https://www.chaoticera.news/p/the-state-of-the-union-split-screen">estimated on Tuesday</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“For Democrats,” Tharp wrote, “it seems like the goal of these events isn’t really to break through the noise so much as to add to it to prove they’re still part of the conversation.” The goal, he argued, is “a thousand different parallel broadcasts, where everyone’s yelling about politics into a camera, but only a few are really listening in between endless scrolls.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Much of American politics, persuasion, and education now hinges on those fleeting seconds between endless scrolling, or on the longer commentary that these talking heads provide in the days following the main events.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">That liberals, never-Trumpers, and official Democrats are now more fully leaning into these avenues suggests at the very least, that they’re capitalizing on one of the main lessons of 2024: Go everywhere, and build up and expand an alternative media environment.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">And there were still the traditional Democratic response</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Given the length of Trump’s speech, the official Democratic response and the Spanish-language version, the traditional TV venues for Democratic rebuttal, didn’t begin until after 11 pm ET.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">For the main thankless task, Democrats chose the new governor of Virginia, Abigail Spanberger. &#8220;Tonight, our president did not tell you the truth,” Spanberger began her address with, before going on to explain how Trump is making life more unaffordable, sparking fear through immigration enforcement, and enriching the ultra-rich. “Is the president working to make life more affordable for you?” she asked the audience. “Is the president working for you?”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The rebuttal for Spanish-language viewers, delivered by Sen. Alex Padilla of California, focused on the rising costs of health care, housing, groceries, and electricity, as well as the administration’s weaponization of government services and threats to election integrity.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But Padilla leaned into his own immigrant heritage and experience with immigration agents: “Many of you saw when federal agents pushed me to the ground and handcuffed me for demanding answers from this administration over its military occupation in Los Angeles.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“They may have knocked me down for a moment,” he continued, “but I got right back up…I am still here. Standing. Still fighting.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Whether this level of message discipline and multimedia coordination will cause voters who have soured on Trump to actually embrace Democrats is, of course, something we won’t know until at least this year’s midterms. But politics under the second Trump administration is basically information warfare — and the Democrats may actually be getting better at it after all.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[The FCC (probably) didn’t censor Stephen Colbert]]></title>
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			<id>https://www.vox.com/?p=479552</id>
			<updated>2026-02-18T12:08:52-05:00</updated>
			<published>2026-02-18T12:10:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[For the 12 of us who woke up Tuesday morning wondering what we had missed on Monday’s late-night shows, CBS greeted us with a concerning development. Overnight, Stephen Colbert had laid into his network, dedicating time at the top of The Late Show to claim that CBS prohibited him from airing an interview with the [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<img alt="James Talarico and Stephen Colbert on set of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert." data-caption="James Talarico and Stephen Colbert on the set of The Late Show With Stephen Colbert. | Scott Kowalchyk/CBS via Getty Images" data-portal-copyright="Scott Kowalchyk/CBS via Getty Images" data-has-syndication-rights="1" src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/02/gettyimages-2261695164.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=0,0,100,100" />
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	James Talarico and Stephen Colbert on the set of The Late Show With Stephen Colbert. | Scott Kowalchyk/CBS via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">For the 12 of us who woke up Tuesday morning wondering what we had missed on Monday’s late-night shows, CBS greeted us with a concerning development.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Overnight, Stephen Colbert had laid into his network, dedicating time at the top of <em>The</em> <em>Late Show</em> to claim that CBS prohibited him from airing an interview with the Texas Democratic Senate candidate James Talarico.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“He was supposed to be here, but we were told in no uncertain terms by our network’s lawyers, who called us directly, that we could not have him on the broadcast,” Colbert said. “Not only could I not have him on, I could not mention me not having him on. And because my network clearly does not want us to talk about this, let’s talk about this.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The blame, he argued, lay with CBS’s lawyers for fearing repercussions from the Federal Communications Commission, the federal body that regulates the airwaves, and its Trump-loyalist chair, Brendan Carr, who has picked fights with Trump critics on TV before.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">It seemed like a clear-cut case of the federal government having a chilling effect on free speech. But since then, new details have emerged that complicate Colbert’s claims.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">So what’s actually happening?</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Colbert’s claims about CBS’s legal fears are rooted in an FCC rule that has received renewed attention under Trump 2.0. It’s known as the “equal-time” rule: a requirement during campaign season for candidates competing for the same office to receive equal airtime on networks. As my colleague Cameron Peters explained, late-night and daytime talk shows were long considered exempt from this rule, but in January, the Trump administration announced it would <a href="https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-68A1.pdf">begin to enforce the rule more strictly</a> against these shows.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Colbert, CBS, and TV talk shows have all been recent targets of the FCC and the Trump administration, and it’s not hard to see why. CBS’s parent company Paramount is canceling Colbert’s show in May, Trump sued Paramount/CBS over a <em>60 Minutes</em> story in 2025, Disney/ABC <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/462570/jimmy-kimmel-trump-abc-disney-boycott-hulu-show-kirk-sinclair-nexstar">suspended Jimmy Kimmel</a> last year after Carr criticized a monologue he gave, and the FCC is apparently investigating whether ABC’s <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5728540-equal-time-rule-fcc-the-view/"><em>The View</em> violated</a> this rule by interviewing Talarico this year.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Colbert referenced all of this Monday night: “Let’s just call this what it is: Donald Trump’s administration wants to silence anyone who says anything bad about Trump on TV. … So, it’s no surprise that two of the people most affected by this threat are me and my friend Jimmy Kimmel.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But CBS and Paramount are contesting this version of things. In statements shared with news organizations on Tuesday, CBS said it never prohibited <em>The Late Show</em> from broadcasting the Talarico interview, and instead offered legal guidance about the equal-time rule, as well as alternative options.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">According to the statement CBS <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5742205-cbs-denies-colbert-talarico-censorship/">provided to The Hill</a>, Colbert’s show then decided “to present the interview through its YouTube channel with on-air promotion on the broadcast rather than potentially providing the equal-time options.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The full segment, which <em>had</em> been taped but not aired, would appear overnight on <em>The Late Show</em>’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A">YouTube channel</a>, where it has now received well over 5 million views, as of publishing.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The White House, of course, is defending the FCC and Carr, while attacking Colbert. </p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And the saga took another turn on Tuesday night, when <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5743078-colbert-cbs-talarico-interview/">Colbert dug in to his free-speech case</a>, calling CBS’s denial “crap,” saying they were backing down against “bullies,” and arguing that corporate lawyers already read and have to “approve every script that goes on the air.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">The controversy also has a campaign dimension. Talarico is running in a competitive primary against Rep. Jasmine Crockett, a media darling who has appeared on <em>The Late Show</em> multiple times. Early voting in that Texas Senate primary began this week — something Crockett has noted when asked to weigh in.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I do think there are additional layers at play here,” she said Tuesday at a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sn1PlUKFdg">press availability</a>. “I do want to make sure that…we have exactly what happened versus the mania that just so happens to play out on the very first of early voting.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">She made a similar point <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rep-crockett-speaks-out-on-cbs-colbert-controversy/id1692806415?i=1000750267826">on a podcast</a>, suggesting the drama may have given Talarico “the boost he was looking for.” None of this amounts to a defense of Trump, Carr, or the FCC — but it strikes a conspiratorial note as her race with Talarico grows <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/viral-dispute-mediocre-comment-exposes-racial-divides-democrats-texas-rcna257284">more competitive</a>, and <a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/02/10/texas-senate-talarico-crockett-race-identity">messier over identity politics</a>.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Early voting ends next week, and the primary will be held on March 3.</p>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[The Epstein files are becoming a real problem for Trump — with his own conspiratorial voters]]></title>
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			<updated>2026-02-17T14:35:39-05:00</updated>
			<published>2026-02-16T06:00:00-05:00</published>
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							<summary type="html"><![CDATA[If Joe Rogan is any indication, February 2026 may go down as the month that the Epstein files saga cemented itself as a lasting political liability for President Donald Trump and Republicans. The podcaster has spent the last week discussing the disjointed release of files by the Department of Justice, analyzing emails and redactions, and [&#8230;]]]></summary>
			
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<img alt="Pam Bondi sits at a table with a name card and microphone with a large screen behind her showing a photo of Trump and Epstein." data-caption="An image of President Donald Trump and deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein is displayed behind US Attorney General Pam Bondi during a House Judiciary Committee hearing in Washington, DC, on February 11, 2026. | Graeme Sloan/Bloomberg via Getty Images" data-portal-copyright="Graeme Sloan/Bloomberg via Getty Images" data-has-syndication-rights="1" src="https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/02/gettyimages-2260583454.jpg?quality=90&#038;strip=all&#038;crop=4.55,8.3579396325459,95.45,87.248078365204" />
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	An image of President Donald Trump and deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein is displayed behind US Attorney General Pam Bondi during a House Judiciary Committee hearing in Washington, DC, on February 11, 2026. | Graeme Sloan/Bloomberg via Getty Images	</figcaption>
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<p class="has-text-align-none">If <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/438944/joe-rogan-experience-podcast-america-mirror-2020s-politics-truth-young-men">Joe Rogan</a> is any indication, February 2026 may go down as the month that the Epstein files saga cemented itself as a lasting political liability for President Donald Trump and Republicans. The podcaster has spent the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000749478377">last</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000749116831">week</a> discussing the disjointed release of files by the Department of Justice, analyzing emails and redactions, and concluding that a myriad of conspiracies might actually be true.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And what is he saying? That the slow-walked and highly censored presentation of information by the Trump administration is “the gaslightiest gaslighting shit I’ve ever heard in my life,” that “none of this is good for this administration,” and that “this is not a hoax…if you’re not protecting victims…then who are you protecting?”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Rogan is representative of a large swath of voters who delivered Trump his 2024 victory: distrustful, low-propensity, and anti-system voters. And what he and <a href="https://www.vox.com/politics/459080/podcast-men-trump-rogan-theo-von-andrew-schulz-paul-adin-ross-nelkcast-bros">other spokespeople for this suspicious segment of America</a> — Tim Dillon, Shawn Ryan, Andrew Schulz — are saying matters: it suggests that these anti-system voters, who were once thought to be a permanent part of the new GOP coalition, are nothing of the sort.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Those voters tend to skew politically moderate, independent, and, perhaps most importantly, <em>young</em>. They don’t tend to follow the news or know <em>too</em> much about Trump or politics. They get informed through nontraditional avenues like podcasts and social media, and aren’t wed to a political party or identity.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In 2024, all of this created an opportunity for the Trump campaign — to promise to release the so-called Epstein files.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">But what these Americans are hearing and thinking now is very different. They feel like they are being lied to again, being gaslit, and seeing another cover-up happen in real time.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This administration is also doing itself no favors: Attorney General Pam Bondi’s House testimony <a href="https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/pam-bondi-house-hearing-02-11-26">this week</a> only dug that hole deeper, as she redirected toward the stock market, refused to acknowledge Epstein survivors sitting behind her, and accused lawmakers of having “Trump derangement syndrome” for deigning to ask questions.</p>

<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What data and research suggest about the effect of the Epstein files</h2>

<p class="has-text-align-none">There’s robust evidence over the last few months that the Trump administration’s slow-walking of the Epstein files is breaking through to voters. Researchers who track opinion among these lower-propensity, anti-system voters have found a few notable trends.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">In public opinion research from Navigator, a Democratic-aligned firm, <a href="https://navigatorresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Navigator-Topline-F02.02.26.pdf">nearly three-quarters</a> of Americans have heard “a lot” or “some” about the Trump administration’s handling of the files — more than the share who were aware of Trump’s reaction to the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti in Minneapolis at the hands of ICE agents.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Particularly notable are the levels of awareness among independent and passive news consumers: about 6 in 10 of these Americans have heard about this — more than the ICE killings, and the expiration of ACA tax credits that led to last fall’s government shutdown, but less than those aware of Trump’s tariffs.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">At the same time, more than half of Americans in these surveys say they are concerned by the administration’s handling of the files, including about half of independents and passive news consumers.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">These findings from January build on previous reports: Navigator found that 55 percent of Americans disapproved of Trump’s handling of the files <a href="https://navigatorresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Navigator-Topline-F12.08.25-1.pdf">in December</a>, when the first new batch were released, and majorities of independents and passive news consumers similarly disapproved back then.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And in Navigator’s <a href="https://navigatorresearch.org/focus-group-report-trump-regrets-theyve-had-a-few/">focus groups</a> with these voters in January, the same kind of sentiment you hear from these podcasters jumps out:</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“I think the whole Epstein debacle, I think that should have been out already months and months ago,” one Republican man from Pennsylvania who regrets his vote for Trump told moderators.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Another regretful Trump voter, a Republican man from Michigan, echoed that sense of conspiracy: “The Epstein Files. Yeah, what a letdown. [&#8230;] And I think that one really turned me against [Trump] and made me see exactly what was going on. There&#8217;s obviously a coverup. There’s obviously something that somebody doesn&#8217;t&#8230; Or else they would release it.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">This is an especially big issue among young men. Researchers from Third Way, the moderate Democratic think-tank, have found particularly notable disagreement among young Republican men with how Trump is handling the issue. In their <a href="https://www.thirdway.org/memo/how-young-men-view-trump-2-0-after-one-year">latest report</a> of how young men view Trump, they found that of the nine actions they polled, Trump&#8217;s opposition to the full release of the Epstein files was the second most unpopular — some 63 percent of young men found it “very concerning.”&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">Some 41 percent of young Republican men found the issue off-putting — their highest area of disagreement with Trump’s position.</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">“The Epstein files are breaking through the deluge of news…and this issue isn’t going anywhere,” Melissa Toufanian, Navigator’s managing director, told me. “For younger voters especially, this doesn’t feel like a typical partisan political fight. It’s reinforcing what they already believe, that powerful people don’t play by the same rules and can evade accountability. People aren’t really shocked, but they are frustrated that the system feels broken and isn’t working for people like them.”</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">And the issue may only get bigger. The entire alternative media ecosystem has only dedicated <em>more</em> time and effort over the last few weeks discussing the files and spawning new conspiracy theories about why so many names have been redacted.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">I asked Charlie Sabgir, the director of the <a href="https://www.ymrp.org/team">Young Men Research Project</a>, to dig into how the top 50 podcasts among young men have been discussing the files since the start of this month. He found that this topic is breaking through in all categories of this medium: not just explicitly political shows, but comedy and entertainment, true crime, sports, and music and culture shows too.&nbsp;</p>

<p class="has-text-align-none">While blame isn’t exclusively reserved for Trump and Republicans, they tend to get lumped into the category of gaslighting “elites” now — and the mood is particularly sour that accountability will ever be achieved. As the hosts of Andrew Schulz’s <em>Flagrant</em> podcast put it on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWJm-SQbaZg">Wednesday</a>, “What does Trump have to lose? Everyone thinks he’s already implicated.”</p>
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