What’s ailing us? Many serious illnesses we face are embarrassingly simple to avoid. Ezra Klein talks with Center for Disease Control director Tom Frieden.
Tom FriedenWe could do so much more to help people live longer, healthier and more productive lives. Tobacco remains the leading preventable cause of death in this country. It still kills more than a thousand Americans everyday. And yet, if you look at the communities that have done the right things, they've driven rates way down by 20, 30%. Teen smoking rates down by 50% or more. We could drive those numbers down dramatically if we focus on it.
Take blood pressure control. Heart attacks and strokes kill more Americans than any other cause, in fact, cause more inequalities in health and any other disease. Two million Americans a year get a heart attack or a stroke and yet many, maybe even most of those could be prevented by simple things like controlling your blood pressure. Taking an aspirin a day if you're at risk. Getting your cholesterol under control and not smoking.
Vaccine-preventable diseases are still too common. We're seeing, for example, outbreaks of measles now in communities that haven't vaccinated well. We're seeing cervical cancer that's going to continue if we don't get our HPV vaccination rates up. When we see thousands of people going to hospitals every year who don't have to if they just got a flu shot every year.
Ezra KleinWhat is the single biggest opportunity out there in health?
Tom Frieden I would start with tobacco control. You know what, people sometimes think, "Oh, tobacco. That's yesterday's issue." It still kills more people than anything else in this country and around the world. And there's a lot more that we can do about it. It doesn't just kill people, it disables, disfigures, causes diseases. It increases our health care cost. Tobacco is really the number one enemy of health in this country and around the world.
Ezra KleinWhen you say that a lot of people think that tobacco is yesterday's news, what is the next step on policy? At this point you're dealing with taxes in New York that are high enough that one out of three packs is basically smuggled into the state. When you say there's a lot more to do, what is there more to do?
Tom FriedenFirst off, there are a lot of places that haven't yet implemented the things that we know will work, whether that's protecting people from second-hand smoke at work or increasing tax or reducing smuggling, which there are ways to do. Or running hard hitting ads, which we know make a major impact – they save lives and save money. These are some of the things that work.
Health care system can do much better at helping people quit. Medications will double or triple the chances that you'll succeed. But the things that are going to make the biggest impact are price, hard hitting ads and smoke-free laws.
Ezra KleinWhat do you think about e-cigarettes?
Tom FriedenE-cigarettes may help in some ways but they are definitely harmful in many ways as well. If they get kids hooked on tobacco and nicotine, which they are doing. If they get smokers to continue smoking rather than quit. If they get smokers who quit to come back to smoking.
Ezra KleinWhat's your view of the evidence on whether they actually help people quit?
Tom FriedenThere's one small well-done study that they helped a little bit. The patches helped a little bit in that study too. The two weren't statistically different. We do know that people who are using e-cigarettes are not quitting at higher rates than people who aren't using them now. As we learn more, I have no doubt that an individual here or there can be helped by them, that they might be helpful to some people. As a societal issue, they're only going to be helpful if they're well-regulated and if cigarettes are well-regulated.
Ezra KleinI'm a dedicated reader of the CDC's Vital Signs newsletter. Most of us think of the drug problem as a problem of illegal drugs. But your data often focuses on legal drugs. It's about tobacco, it's about alcohol, and it's about opiates and prescription drugs. I think there's been, according to you guys, a 400% increase in female deaths from prescription drug overdose in the last couple of years.
Then also it's about antibiotics and overuse of antibiotics in the rise of superbugs. You guys have scared the hell out of me about things that are supposedly, if not safe, at least safe for adults to consume and reasonably regulated ways.
Tom FriedenIn health care, there's something that's sometimes called the inverse care law. People who get care the most needed the least and vice versa. That's also sometimes true in terms of medications. We overuse a lot of medications but we also underuse important medications. We don't get it right.
One of the most striking weeks I've had as CDC Director in my five years there was when I had, in the course of one week alone, looked at the increase in prescription opiate overdoses in death numbers, in babies born addicted to opiates because their mother was taking an opiate during pregnancy, in distracted or drugged driving, in hepatitis-c from kids who started out using pills and graduated to heroin because it was cheaper, and in HIV among that same population. This is in the course of one week. It's every age group, from babies to seniors. There are enough opiates prescribed in this country for every single adult to get 75 pills every year.









