Skip to main content

The context you need, when you need it

When news breaks, you need to understand what actually matters — and what to do about it. At Vox, our mission to help you make sense of the world has never been more vital. But we can’t do it on our own.

We rely on readers like you to fund our journalism. Will you support our work and become a Vox Member today?

Join now

Sarah Sanders reluctantly says President Trump is not above the law

It took a couple of tries.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Holds Daily Press Briefing
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Holds Daily Press Briefing
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders faces questions on Trump’s self-pardon tweet.
Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders appeared reluctant to answer a simple yes-or-no question on Monday: Does the president of the United States believe he is above the law?

This morning, President Donald Trump tweeted that he had the “absolute right” to pardon himself should he be charged in the investigation into Russia influence on the 2016 presidential election. (It’s more complicated than that.)

The tweet prompted NBC’s White House reporter Peter Alexander to ask Sanders a very specific question: “Does the president believe he is above the law?”

The exchange is worth watching.

“Certainly not — the president hasn’t done anything wrong,” she said.

So Alexander asked again: “The question isn’t if the president has done anything wrong. I guess the question is, does the president believe the framers envisioned a system where the president could pardon himself — where the president could be above the law?”

Sanders hesitated again, saying, “The Constitution very clearly lays out the law, and once again, the president hasn’t done anything wrong, and we feel comfortable on that front.”

But as Alexander pointed out, the Constitution is not clear on this point. “You just a moment ago said it’s not that clear — so simply put, does the president believe he is above the law?”

“Certainly no one is above the law,” Sanders finally said.

Despite Trump’s absolutism on his pardoning power, as Vox’s Sean Illing explained, constitutional scholars are divided on a president’s ability to self-pardon. It all hinges on the interpretation of a “shall take care that the Laws be faithfully executed” clause in the Constitution, which some legal experts take to mean that the president cannot self-pardon, as it would be an act only in self-interest.

Sanders is known for being able to creatively spin Trump’s repeated lies, scandals, and errant tweets. This particular instance highlighted the lengths to which the White House press secretary is willing to go to defend the president’s freewheeling — and potentially legally problematic — commentary.

See More:

More in Politics

Politics
The Supreme Court will decide if migrants can be sent back to war zonesThe Supreme Court will decide if migrants can be sent back to war zones
Politics

When can the Trump administration strip legal protections from migrants who risk death in their home countries?

By Ian Millhiser
Politics
The redistricting wars are almost over. Here’s the score.The redistricting wars are almost over. Here’s the score.
Politics

Trump’s gerrymandering efforts are backfiring.

By Christian Paz
The Logoff
Why the Pentagon is dropping a flu vaccine mandateWhy the Pentagon is dropping a flu vaccine mandate
The Logoff

US soldiers are now free to get the flu.

By Cameron Peters
Politics
The war in Iran isn’t ending — it’s becoming something newThe war in Iran isn’t ending — it’s becoming something new
Politics

Why this conflict is so hard to end.

By Joshua Keating
Politics
The lucky few who can apply for tariff refundsThe lucky few who can apply for tariff refunds
Politics

The Trump administration launched its tariff refund portal. Will the refunds really happen?

By Andrew Prokop
Podcasts
Pete Hegseth’s spiritual leader explains his radical faithPete Hegseth’s spiritual leader explains his radical faith
Podcast
Podcasts

The Christian nationalist pastor swaying the Trump administration discusses Trump, Iran, and the pope.

By Jolie Myers and Noel King