Skip to main content

The context you need, when you need it

When news breaks, you need to understand what actually matters — and what to do about it. At Vox, our mission to help you make sense of the world has never been more vital. But we can’t do it on our own.

We rely on readers like you to fund our journalism. Will you support our work and become a Vox Member today?

Join now

“I’m sort of entitled to a great story”: Trump wants the New York Times to love him

Trump doesn’t think the New York Times is failing. He thinks it’s failing to give him credit where credit is due.

President Donald Trump seated at a desk in the Oval Office in January 2019.
President Donald Trump seated at a desk in the Oval Office in January 2019.
President Donald Trump in the Oval Office in January 2019.
Mark Wilson/Getty Images
Emily Stewart
Emily Stewart covered business and economics for Vox and wrote the newsletter The Big Squeeze, examining the ways ordinary people are being squeezed under capitalism. Before joining Vox, she worked for TheStreet.

For President Donald Trump, his ongoing battle with the New York Times is personal — he just wants a good story about him from the big newspaper in the city where he grew up.

Trump sat down for an interview on Thursday with Times journalists Maggie Haberman and Peter Baker as well as the newspaper’s publisher, A.G. Sulzberger. Trump had initially requested an off-the-record meeting with Sulzberger, but the publisher declined, saying he would only agree to an on-the-record interview with Times reporters.

Haberman and Baker conducted most of the interview, but Sulzberger specifically decided to press Trump on his attacks on the media. The president, who often declares what he calls the “fake news” to be the “enemy of the people,” defended his stance that he is often treated unfairly by reporters. He took specific issue with a number of outlets, including the Times.

But what becomes clear through his comments, a transcript of which the Times published, is that Trump, who was born in Queens and spent his whole life in New York, just really craves the paper’s approval.

“I came up from Jamaica, Queens, Jamaica Estates, and I became president of the United States,” Trump said. “I’m sort of entitled to a great story from my — just one — from my newspaper.”

Trump often uses social media as a way around the media; he (often successfully) tries to shift the news cycle with a single tweet. In his Times interview, he bragged about his social media following but still indicated that, in his mind, it’s not the same as the write-up he wants in the New York Times.

Social media “gives you at least a voice,” he said. “That’s not — you know, the New York Times is the New York Times.”

At one point, when an aide tried to help wind down the conversation, telling Trump he had some important calls, he responded, “I’ll be in in a little while. What’s more important than the New York Times? Okay, nothing, nothing.”

Later in the interview, when White House press secretary Sarah Sanders tried to cut things off, Trump said if the Times treats him “fairly,” he’ll do more interviews. “We’ll do it a hundred times,” he said.

Trump doesn’t think the New York Times is failing. He thinks it’s failing to give him credit where credit is due.

Trump has for years derided the “failing New York Times” in the media, on the campaign trail, and on Twitter. He often claims that stories about him are false and unfairly slanted.

Yet he keeps on talking to them.

He’s called out Haberman and Baker directly on Twitter, but during his Thursday sit-down, his exchanges with them seemed largely calm and familiar.

He brought up Baker’s book on former President Barack Obama, telling him it was a “very good book,” albeit not about “my favorite person.” When Haberman pointed out that sometimes Trump calls Times coverage inaccurate when it is, in fact, accurate, he said they sometimes miss “little things,” like his routine for watching television. At one point, they all joked about exchanging phone numbers:

PETER BAKER, chief White House correspondent: [Handing the president a notepad] Put your number right there, and I’ll be happy to call.

[Laughter]

HABERMAN: We’ll just — we’ll call you.

BAKER: We’ll be happy to call.

HABERMAN: Can we go through the switchboard? We’ll call you. [Laughter]

TRUMP: Do you have a hard time — when you call me, let me ask you this, when you call me you go through — do you ever call for me and —

SANDERS: Two Sundays ago you called — [inaudible]

TRUMP: — and I don’t get back?

HABERMAN: Ish.

Trump said that he’s “very busy” but speculated that if a subject of someone’s reporting doesn’t get back to them, maybe they would “be inclined to do bad stories.”

This is not, generally, how journalism works. Journalists often reach out to the subjects of their reporting to give them a chance to respond to their reporting. But whether someone calls back does not determine whether a story is “good” or “bad.”

But the somewhat relaxed nature of their exchanges, per the transcripts, show that a lot of Trump’s derision of the press is performative. He knows it plays well with his base — and with a lot of voters who are distrustful of the news — and that it’s easier to declare a negative story as false than to accept it and explain what’s going on.

Of course, the stakes are high: Violence against journalists is a very real thing all over the world, and the leader of the United States, which is supposed to be an advocate of free speech and press, constantly attacking media has real-life consequences. Trump said he wants to be a defender of free press but went back to complaining about bad coverage of him. He outlined what he saw as his accomplishments, in real time trying to convince the reporters to do that positive story he so craves.

Trump seems to understand the media game — long before arriving at the White House, he was spinning reporters, even as his own fake spokesperson, to try to get good stories out there.

“You’ve been dealing with the press longer than I’ve been in it, longer than he’s been in it. Longer than Peter’s been in it,” Haberman told Trump.

“I hate to hear that,” he said.

“That’s a long time,” she responded.

“Let me look at a mirror,” he joked.

Trump thrives on media attention, good and bad — and the press has largely given it to him. But the Queens guy has got his eye on a glowing write-up from the New York Times.

“I became president and I didn’t have a good story,” Trump said.


The news moves fast. Catch up at the end of the day: Subscribe to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily news podcast, or sign up for our evening email newsletter, Vox Sentences.

More in Politics

The Logoff
Trump’s DOJ wants to undo January 6 convictionsTrump’s DOJ wants to undo January 6 convictions
The Logoff

How the Trump administration is still trying to rewrite January 6 history.

By Cameron Peters
Politics
Donald Trump messed with the wrong popeDonald Trump messed with the wrong pope
Politics

Trump fought with Pope Francis before. He’s finding Pope Leo XIV to be a tougher foil.

By Christian Paz
Podcasts
A cautionary tale about tax cutsA cautionary tale about tax cuts
Podcast
Podcasts

California cut property taxes in the 1970s. It didn’t go so well.

By Miles Bryan and Noel King
Podcasts
Obama’s top Iran negotiator on Trump’s screwupsObama’s top Iran negotiator on Trump’s screwups
Podcast
Podcasts

Wendy Sherman helped Obama reach a deal with Iran. Here’s what she thinks Trump is doing wrong.

By Kelli Wessinger and Noel King
Politics
The Supreme Court could legalize moonshine, and ruin everything elseThe Supreme Court could legalize moonshine, and ruin everything else
Politics

McNutt v. DOJ could allow the justices to seize tremendous power over the US economy.

By Ian Millhiser
The Logoff
The new Hormuz blockade, briefly explainedThe new Hormuz blockade, briefly explained
The Logoff

Trump tries Iran’s playbook.

By Cameron Peters