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The Gray Area

The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time.

New episodes drop every Monday.

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We’re entering dangerous territory with AI
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The AI hype is real. We’re not prepared for what’s next.

By Sean Illing
We’re entering dangerous territory with AI
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The AI hype is real. We’re not prepared for what’s next.

By Sean Illing
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What would you do alone in a cage with nothing but cocaine?What would you do alone in a cage with nothing but cocaine?
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The ‘gray area’ of addiction.

By Sean Illing
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The logic of anxietyThe logic of anxiety
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Don’t be afraid to be anxious.

By Sean Illing
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The surprising gender gap at the heart of America’s baby bustThe surprising gender gap at the heart of America’s baby bust
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Gen Z men want kids. Gen Z women have questions.

By Sean Illing and Anna North

The latest in The Gray Area

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The pro-gun case liberals don’t want to hearThe pro-gun case liberals don’t want to hear
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Is it time for the left to rethink its approach to guns?

By Sean Illing
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The real reasons people love playing gamesThe real reasons people love playing games
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A seemingly trivial practice has deep benefits — but there are times we simply don’t get them.

By Sean Illing
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Enjoy the Super Bowl while you can. Football won’t last forever.Enjoy the Super Bowl while you can. Football won’t last forever.
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The sport feels unstoppable — yet also doomed.

By Sean Illing
The Case for Growth
How America made it impossible to buildHow America made it impossible to build
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The Case for Growth

A system built to stop government from doing harm stopped it from doing anything.

By Sean Illing
Yes, your anger and forgiveness can coexist
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Too often, we place forgiveness and anger on opposite sides, as if they’re in competition. The truth is more complex.

By Sean Illing
Culture
This bizarre online community is a warning about where the internet is headedThis bizarre online community is a warning about where the internet is headed
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A strange porn subculture reveals what life online is doing to us.

By Sean Illing
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The world has gotten richer — so, why aren’t we happier?The world has gotten richer — so, why aren’t we happier?
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Technological progress and economic growth are preconditions for human happiness, not a guarantee.

By Sean Illing
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How to survive awkward encountersHow to survive awkward encounters
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Why you feel awkward and what to do about it.

By Sean Illing
The Case for Growth
We can have growth while fighting climate changeWe can have growth while fighting climate change
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The Case for Growth

How to change your mind on the climate’s future, according to data scientist Hannah Ritchie.

By Sean Illing
Technology
Why every website you used to love is getting worseWhy every website you used to love is getting worse
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Technology

The decay of Google, Amazon, and Facebook are part of a larger trend.

By Sean Illing
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Our understanding of memory is all wrongOur understanding of memory is all wrong
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An expert on the best ways to strengthen yours.

By Sean Illing
Politics
Is America on the brink?Is America on the brink?
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Politics

An expert on political violence offers warnings — and some hope.

By Sean Illing
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Why TikTok is so influential — and why that’s particularly worrisome nowWhy TikTok is so influential — and why that’s particularly worrisome now
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Many used to worry about China’s power over the app — but American control is troubling, too.

By Sean Illing
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Why the clean energy revolution can outrun the Trump administrationWhy the clean energy revolution can outrun the Trump administration
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Environmental activist and writer Bill McKibben on why “you can’t stop the sun.”

By Sean Illing
Politics
Why free speech can be so contentiousWhy free speech can be so contentious
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Politics

The contradictions at the heart of this fundamental right in democracies.

By Sean Illing
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Why China can build so quickly and America can’tWhy China can build so quickly and America can’t
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China’s engineers vs. America’s lawyers.

By Sean Illing
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Why sports gambling is more dangerous than ever beforeWhy sports gambling is more dangerous than ever before
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It’s so easy get addicted these days. The apps are counting on it.

By Sean Illing
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How the fight over what it means to be human has dramatically changedHow the fight over what it means to be human has dramatically changed
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A philosopher on humanity’s need for a new story — and a new way to defy where we’re headed.

By Sean Illing
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What the right’s war on college is really aboutWhat the right’s war on college is really about
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Wesleyan President Michael Roth details the conservative agenda targeting American universities.

By Sean Illing
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Is ChatGPT killing higher education?Is ChatGPT killing higher education?
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AI is creating a cheating utopia. Universities don’t know how to respond.

By Sean Illing
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The economic theory behind TrumpismThe economic theory behind Trumpism
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A leading conservative thinker on populism’s rise on the right.

By Sean Illing
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Are we reading Machiavelli wrong?Are we reading Machiavelli wrong?
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What we’re missing in Machiavelli’s The Prince, explained by an expert.

By Sean Illing
Future Perfect
Does your job feel pointless? This might be the answer.Does your job feel pointless? This might be the answer.
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What if we measured success in terms of how much good we do?

By Sigal Samuel
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Is your brain your political destiny?Is your brain your political destiny?
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The strange connection between ideology and the brain.

By Sean Illing
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Did our politics fail us during Covid?Did our politics fail us during Covid?
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Political scientist Frances Lee examines the “noble lies” and truth-seeking failures of the pandemic.

By Sean Illing
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Will AI become God? That’s the wrong question.Will AI become God? That’s the wrong question.
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Tech pioneer Jaron Lanier argues for a different way to think about AI.

By Sean Illing
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Is ignorance truly bliss?Is ignorance truly bliss?
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Mark Lilla, author of a new book on ignorance, discusses when we’re better off searching for knowledge and when we’re better off living in the dark.

By Sean Illing
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The real stakes of the war for your attentionThe real stakes of the war for your attention
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How the attention economy is reshaping our world.

By Sean Illing
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Your phone is destroying your social lifeYour phone is destroying your social life
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Technology and the cost of convenience, explained.

By Sean Illing
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Are men okay? Our modern masculinity problem, explained.Are men okay? Our modern masculinity problem, explained.
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Why is it so hard to talk about masculinity?

By Sean Illing
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The case for not overthinkingThe case for not overthinking
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How to feel alive, explained by a philosopher.

By Sean Illing
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America’s reactionary moment is hereAmerica’s reactionary moment is here
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How Trump’s Republican Party left conservatism behind.

By Sean Illing and Zack Beauchamp
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Does being woke do any good?Does being woke do any good?
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Musa al-Gharbi on his new book We Have Never Been Woke.

By Sean Illing
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Is America collapsing like ancient Rome?Is America collapsing like ancient Rome?
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Caesar, Trump, and the future of American democracy.

By Sean Illing
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Ta-Nehisi Coates on complexity, clarity, and truthTa-Nehisi Coates on complexity, clarity, and truth
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What the author saw in Palestine.

By Sean Illing
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Your mind needs chaosYour mind needs chaos
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The human mind is designed to predict, but uncertainty helps us thrive.

By Oshan Jarow
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Creativity as a spiritual practiceCreativity as a spiritual practice
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Laraaji — ambient musician and onetime actor and comic — on laughter, surrender, and transcending the thinking mind.

By Sean Illing
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Are humans the only ones that can be creative?Are humans the only ones that can be creative?
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Essayist and author Meghan O’Gieblyn on the meaning of art in the age of artificial intelligence.

By Sean Illing
Climate
The climate crisis is here. We can still have a better world. The climate crisis is here. We can still have a better world. 
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Climate

Our hotter planet doesn’t have to be a hopeless planet.

By Sean Illing
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Yuval Noah Harari on whether democracy and AI can coexistYuval Noah Harari on whether democracy and AI can coexist
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“If humans are so smart, why are we so stupid?”

By Sean Illing