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The Gray Area

The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time.

New episodes drop every Monday.

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The cost of cynicismThe cost of cynicism
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It’s irrational to be cynical, so why is it becoming more prevalent?

By Sean Illing
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What George Orwell’s 1984 can teach us about 2024What George Orwell’s 1984 can teach us about 2024
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Orwell prized clear communication, so why are people misusing his name?

By Sean Illing
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Is the United States in self-destruct mode?Is the United States in self-destruct mode?
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The crisis is in the Constitution.

By Sean Illing
Culture
The art and science of swearingThe art and science of swearing
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Culture

And why you feel bad swearing around your friends’ kids, according to a philosopher.

By Sean Illing
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How the 1990s broke politicsHow the 1990s broke politics
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Inside the GOP’s transition from the party of Reagan to the party of Trump.

By Sean Illing
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The existential struggle of being BlackThe existential struggle of being Black
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A conversation with author Nathalie Etoke on Black existentialism and the case for tragic optimism.

By Sean Illing
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What nuclear annihilation could look likeWhat nuclear annihilation could look like
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“The survivors would envy the dead.”

By Sean Illing
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This is your kid on smartphonesThis is your kid on smartphones
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A Q&A with Jonathan Haidt on smartphones, kids today, and what the skeptics get wrong about his argument.

By Sean Illing
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The science of near-death experiencesThe science of near-death experiences
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What happens when we almost die?

By Sean Illing
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The known unknowns about Ozempic, explainedThe known unknowns about Ozempic, explained
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Ozempic has become hugely popular. Researchers are racing to learn more about what it does to us.

By Sean Illing
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UFOs, God, and the edge of understandingUFOs, God, and the edge of understanding
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The spiritual possibilities of alien encounters.

By Sean Illing
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Everything’s a cult nowEverything’s a cult now
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Derek Thompson on what the end of monoculture could mean for American democracy.

By Sean Illing
Future Perfect
Will AI mean the end of liberal democracy?Will AI mean the end of liberal democracy?
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Future Perfect

Fareed Zakaria on the age of revolution.

By Sean Illing
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Life is hard. Can philosophy help?Life is hard. Can philosophy help?
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What philosophy has to say about midlife crises.

By Sean Illing
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Americans are hooked on the fantasy of financial liberationAmericans are hooked on the fantasy of financial liberation
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What multilevel marketing schemes are really selling.

By Sean Illing
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The chaplain who doesn’t believe in GodThe chaplain who doesn’t believe in God
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A spiritual atheist’s journey to helping death row inmates.

By Sean Illing
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Are we in the middle of an extinction panic?Are we in the middle of an extinction panic?
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How doomsday proclamations about AI echo existential anxieties of the past.

By Sean Illing
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Why we fear uncertainty — and why we shouldn’tWhy we fear uncertainty — and why we shouldn’t
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Expert knowledge is useful for problem-solving. So is adapting to new challenges.

By Sean Illing
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Why work is so miserable in AmericaWhy work is so miserable in America
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The Protestant work ethic hijacked America. It’s time for a new pro-worker ethos.

By Sean Illing
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How mindfulness went mainstreamHow mindfulness went mainstream
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Americans embraced meditation. So did corporations.

By Sean Illing
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The philosophy of anarchism, explainedThe philosophy of anarchism, explained
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Why it isn’t the same as chaos.

By Sean Illing
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What our brain chemistry says about free willWhat our brain chemistry says about free will
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In his new book, Stanford professor Robert Sapolsky argues that free will is a myth.

By Sean Illing
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The author Michael Lewis on the lessons of Sam Bankman-FriedThe author Michael Lewis on the lessons of Sam Bankman-Fried
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Why did so many people believe in SBF — and what should we think now?

By Sean Illing
Future Perfect
David Brooks thinks Americans are getting meanerDavid Brooks thinks Americans are getting meaner
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Future Perfect

He blames the collapse of moral education. But what about capitalism?

By Sean Illing
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Naomi Klein on her doppelganger (and yours)Naomi Klein on her doppelganger (and yours)
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Are we living through a uniquely brain-breaking era? Ask someone who went deep into the “mirror world.”

By Sean Illing
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Stuart Russell wrote the textbook on AI safety. He explains how to keep it from spiraling out of control.Stuart Russell wrote the textbook on AI safety. He explains how to keep it from spiraling out of control.
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AI doesn’t have to be superintelligent to cause serious havoc.

By Sean Illing
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Democracy is the antidote to capitalismDemocracy is the antidote to capitalism
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A new book explains capitalism, insecurity, and why democracy is worth it.

By Sean Illing
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Is the populist right’s future ... democratic socialism?Is the populist right’s future ... democratic socialism?
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Sohrab Ahmari explains why precarity is breaking our politics.

By Sean Illing
The case for reimagining the nuclear family
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You can learn a lot from utopias, even though you (probably) don’t live in one.

By Sean Illing
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The new crisis of masculinityThe new crisis of masculinity
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What’s the matter with men — and how do we fix it?

By Sean Illing
Even Better
How to raise kids in the face of climate changeHow to raise kids in the face of climate change
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Even Better

A conversation about parenting, our planet, and holding onto hope.

By Sean Illing
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When you can’t separate art from artistWhen you can’t separate art from artist
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Talking Monsters: A Fan’s Dilemma with Claire Dederer.

By Constance Grady
Future Perfect
How “enlightened selfishness” can lead to a more fulfilling marriageHow “enlightened selfishness” can lead to a more fulfilling marriage
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Future Perfect

The philosopher Agnes Callard on pushing the boundaries of modern relationships.

By Sean Illing
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Are you a good listener? The answer may surprise you.Are you a good listener? The answer may surprise you.
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What we miss when we don’t pay attention to others.

By Sean Illing
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Katie Porter thinks Democrats have a confidence problemKatie Porter thinks Democrats have a confidence problem
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The populist Congress member from California talked with The Gray Area about some solutions to it.

By Sean Illing
Politics
The media wants the audience’s trust. But is it being earned?The media wants the audience’s trust. But is it being earned?
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Politics

Brian Stelter on the fracturing of news, the decline of trust, and what we’ve learned from the Fox News scandal.

By Sean Illing
How Palo Alto created capitalism as we know it
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From Stanford to Theranos, Malcolm Harris explains the weird, dark history of the mythic California city.

By Sean Illing
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Neil deGrasse Tyson gets politicalNeil deGrasse Tyson gets political
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Why the influential astrophysicist is increasingly worried about scientific ignorance.

By Sean Illing
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Embrace uncertaintyEmbrace uncertainty
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Politics
A GOP insider on the Republicans who knew Trump was dangerous — and went MAGA anywayA GOP insider on the Republicans who knew Trump was dangerous — and went MAGA anyway
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Politics

A conversation with ex-GOP operative Tim Miller about how Trumpism swallowed the Republican Party whole.

By Sean Illing